Mandatory day-after Eurovision post

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Hi everyone!

Who watched Eurovision?

What did you think of Portugal's victory? What songs were your favorites?

I look forward to talking Eurovision with all of you, living in America I don't know anyone who likes it so I'm just excited to be part of a community of people who like Eurovision too.

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I never watch it, the only time I've ever watched was when Urban Symphony played in 2009 (Estonia):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOsmEO_osXQ

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phantasmagoria wrote:

I never watch it, the only time I've ever watched was when Urban Symphony played in 2009 (Estonia):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOsmEO_osXQ

Most people I know have never seen it but automatically assume that it's bad because it's foreign.

I love Urban Symphony though, 2009 was a good year

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opulence wrote:
phantasmagoria wrote:

I never watch it, the only time I've ever watched was when Urban Symphony played in 2009 (Estonia):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOsmEO_osXQ

Most people I know have never seen it but automatically assume that it's bad because it's foreign.

I love Urban Symphony though, 2009 was a good year

I don't watch TV very often, I'll usually watch re-runs of anything I have already. I don't even watch competitions like American Idol (not just American but around the world because I don't have the patience to watch those kind of things).

Urban Symphony is a pretty good group, I just wish they would have released a full length albums already Regular smile

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I don't like American Idol personally, I think Eurovision is a lot better. I definitely understand not having patience for it.

If I may ask, what state are you from?

Are they still making music even? I don't think I've heard anything new-ish from them?

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opulence wrote:

I don't like American Idol personally, I think Eurovision is a lot better. I definitely understand not having patience for it.

If I may ask, what state are you from?

Are they still making music even? I don't think I've heard anything new-ish from them?

I'm in New York. The main vocalist (Sandra Nurmsalu) did do some solo work:

Sel Teel (as a featuring artist for Sinine): http://lyricstranslate.com/en/sel-teel-down-road.html
Album version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG_TfJ3QDx8
Acoustic: https://vimeo.com/68060223 (I recommend you listen to this one first, it's so beautiful).

Solo work:
Mängurõõm - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7e01YHo_Ug
Väike Eestimaa - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cdLu14z-mA
Kui tuuled pöörduvad - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My5KZQqi--U

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I'm on the exact opposite end of the country from you - in Oregon.

Oh, I will definitely check it out. Is any of her solo work on this site?

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Eurovision 2017 is very boring. Really. Typical pop-music and these epic hologrames with faces singers on the background....lol. I thought Italy is winner, but the singer sang bad on scene.
Norway and Iceland is the best.

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I usually watch it every year since about 1978, but mostly my favourites end up somewhere around #10.
This year, I predicted the winner correctly for the third time ever (after "Hallelujah" and "Making Your Mind Up", and that was in the 80's).
My #2 was Belgium, #3 Poland, and I also liked Croatia and that Yodel song. England wasn't half bad either.

In previous years, I was mostly appalled by many songs being rip-offs of older songs (the Swedish guy last year was the worst example ever).
This time, there were few songs that sounded ripped off (yeah, that included the Italian who was a favourite before, but his song was almost a 1:1 copy of a show jingle I've heard years ago), but about half of the entries were David-Guetta-ish Eurotrash.

The worst songs were from Spain (no melody, no ability to sing), Austria (cheap Ed Sheeran rip-off) and Bulgaria (sorry, the song didn't do anything for me, despite ending up at #2). Also disappointed by France (rip-off), Germany (bad performance of a mediocre song) and most of Scandinavia. Sweden was OK (also slightly ripped off) but not great.

At least the voting phase is shorter and more interesting now. Will watch again in 2018. Regular smile

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Hello !
I'm a biiiiiiiiig Eurovision fan from Belgium :-) I know ALL winners ( country, title, year, and...if not too difficult to sing, even part of the melody) since the very beginning...I started watching actively around 1995, as therefore I was too young...but I watch a lot of things on youtube !

@magicmulder : "Making your Mind up" (1981) is also one of my favourites all time, but I wasn't born yet...
My favourite since I started watching is "Molitva" (Serbia, 2007) because : own language (and not an international one, so not a lot of people who understand) , no big show, no nice dress or postergirl/boy...At least she won because of her song, not because of all artificial things around.

This year, well...for some same reasons as with Molitva, I liked Hungary and i'm glad they made it to 8th place and Belarus (but their show was not good, I preferred them simple, as in their videoclip).
When I watched the songs on youtube, I thought we ( Belgium), Italy and Sweden would be the big favourites, but after first semifinal, I understood Portugal could be a big surprise too, as it was really different from all the rest!
And I really liked he invited his sister to sing with him after winning :-)
I will certainly watch again next year and in the meantime...there's youtube for older stuff...:-)

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I started following Eurovision way back in 2012, but the last two or three years I gradually lost interest in it, mainly because of all the hurly-burly around it, which led to the situation where I eventually stopped following it, except for my favourites, which this year happened to be Italy, San Marino, and Portugal. I watched their entries only, plus the Bulgarian one (just to make sure that Kristian's song would make it to the final, 'cause it was kinda obvious that he would). As for the other entries, I haven't heard any of them, nor do I regret at all not doing it. On top of that, what mostly disappointed me with this year's contestants is that only four or five songs out of 42 (!) were sung in their country's native language (Portugal and Italy being two of them). All the others, of course, were sung in English, which is another reason why I stopped following Eurovision. If such a contest is supposed to celebrate diversity (as this year's edition's moto states), I think that all countries should sing in their native language and not in English just because it can be understood by a lot more people.

As for the Bulgarian entry, contrary to what a lot of (if not all) Bulgarians wrote on Facebook, stating that Kristian's song had to win at all costs (simply because it's the Bulgarian entry, duh), I absolutely do not agree that our song was the best, nor that it deserved to win instead of Portugal (whose singer a lot of the same people, as usual, started to throw cussings at out of pure anger after the final results – quite a repulsive picture to look at). That's probably the main raison which made me support Portugal's entry in front of Bulgaria's (not that I cared much about Kristian's song before that, don't get me wrong). I've always stayed true to my personal taste and not to the supporting-at-all-costs-no-matter-whether-the-song-is-good-or-bad-kind of nationalistic behaviour, especially when it comes to music). To me, Kristian's song is nothing special, just another contemporary-sounding track which failed to convey me anything.

In fact, I discovered Salvador's song right after the semi-final, in which he was put in, ended by looking at Eurovision's channel on YouTube. I looked which song from that night had the most views, and I was pretty surprised to discover that it was Portugal. I watched the perfomance and remained pleasantly surprised that such a song is participating at this year's edition, but didn't even think for a second that he might make it to the grand final, and even less, that he might win this year's edition. I fully cut out myself that it was Eurovision, so I simply enjoyed the music.

In my opinion, Eurovision did need such a song to win the contest after all the boring pop jingles every year. Okay, it may truly be a geo-political game when it comes to voting, but the fact that such a song won this year's contest is quite eloquent for itself.

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I watched it and began crying when Hungary came on because the song moved me so much. I'm very happy for Portugal, as it took them 53 years to get a win. I'm still kind of sad that Israel may be gone for good after this year.

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I watch Eurovision every year, despite the fact that I am a metalhead, I just find it interesting to see so many countries flock together in one competition, although I have to say I feel the essence is gone. In my opinion, each country should sing in their native language and I was glad that Portugal won, however little the song appealed to me.

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I really wish that they would change the language rules back to how they were before 1999. There was so much more diversity.

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nicholas.ovaloff wrote:

In my opinion, Eurovision did need such a song to win the contest after all the boring pop jingles every year.

Agreed, though the danger is that in 2018 every third song will sound like that one (just like many sounded like cheap "Euphoria" clones this time).

There's very few songs that the general public still remembers after a couple of years, apart from the obvious "Waterloo".
In fact, I can still sing and play most songs from 1970 to 1991 but only three after that (1997, 2000, 2010). Probably because the former years were what formed my musical taste whereas in the latter, my taste diverged from the mainstream.

nicholas.ovaloff wrote:

I think that all countries should sing in their native language

There's been a lot of discussion about that. I can understand those who claim some languages are at a disadvantage because they sound less pleasing than others (it may sound cliché, but most people prefer the sound of French and Italian over the "harsher" languages like German or Russian). I don't see singing in English as pandering to a wider audience (especially in a year where the winner sang Portuguese), just like no country is required to use a composing/arranging style that is "local" or "typical". Diversity should not be misunderstood as being forced to be different just for the sake of being different.

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Wow I loved reading all of these! I agree that most of the songs were bad, but last year there wasn't a single song I liked so I think this year was much better than last year.

With that being said, my favorites were Cyprus, Hungary (like CrimsonDyname, it made me cry, and after I read a translation of the lyrics on here I loved it more), Norway and, Moldova The Netherlands.

I always support Sweden, even if their song is bad. I agree that this years song wasn't good, but it was better than Frans last year

And I didn't like Bulgaria or Portugal's songs. At all. I was actually hoping for Moldova to win

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Contrary to everyone else, I liked Bulgaria's song (not just because I'm Bulgarian) - as a small country with really talented artists, who are often underappreciated (in general), Bulgaria is doing very well in the last two years. Now, if I have to compare this year to last year, I'd say that Poli's song last year was better, but Kristian did well too, given his age. We've had some pretty tragic entries in the past, so hands up for the progress.

From the others, my favourites were Croatia (first time I heard him I thought 2 people are singing, amazing!), Hungary (I understood nothing, but the vibe of that song was great), Romania (they always know how to make catchy songs), Norway (this was a catchy one too) and the highly underestimated as usual Albania (this year, their song was a lot stronger than the previous 2-3, but it didn't get anywhere... their revamps always kill them, as the original song that wins Festivali i Këngës is always better). I liked France and Italy more from their official videos than the life performances.

As much as I like Portuguese as a language, the winner didn't impress me at all, I didn't even listen to his song very carefully while I was watching it. I can't say I really hated anyone, just the others didn't make me any impression to have an opinion.

I like the JESC more exactly because they have to sing in their native language. I love that, as you can feel the vibe of the song a lot better if you're not judging its lyrics. The thing I don't like about the Eurovision is that it became highly political lately with quite a lot of "knowing" who will win and why... that really takes away the excitement of it all. The last year at least there was Russia who turned away the result last minute, where as this one... it was pretty predictable.

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Same here, actually, the Portuguese song didn't "move" me as much as it did with everyone else. It just didn't impress me, but I admit I had a gut feeling it would win, which proved correct. It amazing how a country with no neighbours beside Spain won the competition, since I have observed that countries that are close either geographically or culturally usually support each other.

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Portugal's song was different and I think that's why it won. I didn't like it, but I can see why some people did.
People seem to love the slow, boring Eurovision ballads

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I'm not sure the contest is broadcast here in Brazil, nor do I watch it online or elsewhere... I have to admit that I don't look for who is going to perform there or with each song or even check for info (the only news I get about the contest come from what is on my Facebook news feed or from some music website I subscribe to)... I only know a couple of the Portugal songs but never listened to them, to be frank...

I only know the Italian singers who take part there because I often watch the Sanremo Music Festival, which serves as a way to select the Italian performer in Eurovision - like Stadio (who refused, so Francesca Michielin took part) and now Francesco Gabbani. I was really hoping Gabbani would won, as his song is quite catchy and seemed to be a natural winner, at least for me - but again, I haven't heard any of the others. I feel like people are getting tired of slower, melodic songs and liking more upbeat, dancing-like tunes, and that again is a reason that led me to believe he would won.

But there's something that doesn't make interested in it. It's the fact that several of the songs are not performed in the countries' respective language(s), but are sung in English (maybe a self-promoting strategy, like 'Oh, more people understand me if I sing in this language, so why not?'), just like Nicholas mentioned. This kind of contest is actually great, I wish there were more of its kind around other places of the world...

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Alma, it didn't used to broadcast in the US until this year. I watch it on the website for SVT (Sveriges Television) with Swedish narration Teeth smile

And I would love to see Melodifestivalen, or any of the contests from any country to select their Eurovision participants but most aren't available in the United States (including Melodifestivalen)

I agree that countries should sing in their languages, but they should also choose if the title want to sing in English.

For me, personally, I don't like it when the sing in English sometimes because they don't speak English in real life and they have a really thick accent in singing English and the grammar doesn't make sense. An example is the Moldovan song from this year, though I really liked the song.

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Every year I promise myself never to watch it again since the show seems to become more important than the songs and the music, but every year I break this promise, hoping for better contributions. And only this year I'm glad I did...I love the Portuguese song and I am so glad he won...I'm proud of the dutch girls too, ( nothing to do with me being dutch ... :-) ) despite of the fact they did not make it to the first ten, but they did a great job! But salvador Sobral is so authentic. Love, love, love that song and his performance too.

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I didn't think the Portuguese song was anything special, but I liked the Dutch song a lot. I downloaded it and still listen to it Regular smile

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I watch it every year ...
But all I watch is the votes coming in...
Teeth smile

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Hansi K_Lauer wrote:

I watch it every year ...
But all I watch is the votes coming in...
Teeth smile

I also like watching the voting. Teeth smile I watched it while I was working yesterday Wink smile

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phantasmagoria wrote:

I never watch it, the only time I've ever watched was when Urban Symphony played in 2009 (Estonia)

Their hook sounds exactly like the intro of "Four Tops" -> "Reach out (I'll Be There)"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EaflX0MWRo

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Hansi K_Lauer wrote:
phantasmagoria wrote:

I never watch it, the only time I've ever watched was when Urban Symphony played in 2009 (Estonia)

Their hook sounds exactly like the intro of "Four Tops" -> "Reach out (I'll Be There)"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EaflX0MWRo

*saves video* Wow, I've never even come across this before, you picked that up from just listening to the hook the one time or are you magic? I know sometimes songs will sound a little bit the same despite being from different countries/genres/language/time but I'm still amazed!

opulence wrote:

I'm on the exact opposite end of the country from you - in Oregon.

Oh, I will definitely check it out. Is any of her solo work on this site?

Yup: http://lyricstranslate.com/en/sandra-nurmsalu-lyrics.html

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phantasmagoria wrote:

*saves video* Wow, I've never even come across this before, you picked that up from just listening to the hook the one time or are you magic? I know sometimes songs will sound a little bit the same despite being from different countries/genres/language/time but I'm still amazed!

In most years, the only fun I had was finding out where a specific ESC entry was ripped off of. Regular smile

In general, "older" people (i.e. 40+) like Hansi and me have 4-5 decades of songs to have experienced, plus at least one decade before our lives that we listened to extensively.
Usually I spot "it's ripped off" instantly and then take some minutes to some hours to remember/find the exact song.

I still haven't cracked what "Occidentali's Karma" reminds me of, but it's definitely something I've heard a lot of times before. Some intro/jingle from a TV show that may or may not be a complete song from the charts. The arrangement of the chorus and the distinctive pizzicati at its beginning was a quick giveaway.

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magicmulder wrote:
phantasmagoria wrote:

*saves video* Wow, I've never even come across this before, you picked that up from just listening to the hook the one time or are you magic? I know sometimes songs will sound a little bit the same despite being from different countries/genres/language/time but I'm still amazed!

In most years, the only fun I had was finding out where a specific ESC entry was ripped off of. Regular smile

In general, "older" people (i.e. 40+) like Hansi and me have 4-5 decades of songs to have experienced, plus at least one decade before our lives that we listened to extensively.
Usually I spot "it's ripped off" instantly and then take some minutes to some hours to remember/find the exact song.

I still haven't cracked what "Occidentali's Karma" reminds me of, but it's definitely something I've heard a lot of times before. Some intro/jingle from a TV show that may or may not be a complete song from the charts. The arrangement of the chorus and the distinctive pizzicati at its beginning was a quick giveaway.

You're right, even if I consider myself an old soul, I still haven't listened to a larger variety of music that comes with age (I'm barely near my 30's). If it's songs in English or Spanish, I'm more likely to figure out if something sounds familiar Regular smile

Any other songs in ESC that you can recognize from other songs that you do know for sure?

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magicmulder wrote:

but about half of the entries were David-Guetta-ish Eurotrash.

I assume this is referring to Norway's entry and kinda Cyprus' entry (and Greece a couple years ago). None of the other songs, or even these two gave me a David Guetta feel.

I like EDM music, but not David Guetta, and I'd respectfully disagree that EDM is "eurotrash"

But I do understand where you're coming from, a lot of the songs do sound the same. I'm just happy that this year wasn't almost entirely boring love ballads.

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Phantasmagoria, a lot of people said that that Cascada entry from a few years ago was almost an exact ripoff of Euphoria (I think, some really famous Eurovision song)

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opulence wrote:

Phantasmagoria, a lot of people said that that Cascada entry from a few years ago was almost an exact ripoff of Euphoria (I think, some really famous Eurovision song)

I've never liked Cascada because of her cover of "A Neverending Dream". Everyone kept telling me how awesome "her" song was and I was screaming "it's a cover of X-Perience!, I have the damn CD!". I have nothing against artists doing covers of other songs, but I had such a bad experience (haha) with that one song that I can't get through any of her songs.

Now I'm just going to go back and find older videos of ESC Regular smile

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I know what you mean, people do that all the time with the Johnny Cash cover of Nine Inch Nails' song Hurt. I've had so many people tell me that NIN covered it and that's Johnny Cash was the original artist ugh lol

But I've never cared for Cascada just because I find then to be annoying.

Yeah, if you find any more rip-offs please share because I'm curious too

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phantasmagoria wrote:

Wow, I've never even come across this before, you picked that up from just listening to the hook the one time or are you magic?

I had never heard that song by "Urban Symphony" before, but I became curious about finding out what impressed you so much and clicked on it. I recognized the hook's melody at once, because that song "Reach out (I'll be there)" by the Four Tops was a big hit in the late sixties, when I was a teenager. And when you are a teenager music and fashion are the major things you are interested in. Wink smile

magicmulder wrote:

I still haven't cracked what "Occidentali's Karma" reminds me of, but it's definitely something I've heard a lot of times before. Some intro/jingle from a TV show that may or may not be a complete song from the charts.

Yes, there is at least one sequence that we've heard somewhere else before in the world of Popmusic ...
But I am still as much at a loss as you are.
(But it must be something fairly actual... nothing old)

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Salvador Sobral's winner song reminds me very much of Judy Garland's "Over the Rainbow"...
although the keys are different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSZxmZmBfnU

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Hansi K_Lauer wrote:

Yes, there is at least one sequence that we've heard somewhere else before in the world of Popmusic ...
But I am still as much at a loss as you are.
(But it must be something fairly actual... nothing old)

I'm thinking of some jingle that was played during a show (like DSDS or possibly a gameshow like "Familienduell") as a short filler.
Alternatively, some Kate Ryan-ish pop song of the late 90's/early 00's.
I'll give it another shot at the week-end. There's never been a song I couldn't crack. Regular smile

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The sequence that sounds familiar to me starts at 0:33 in the video

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One last comment: Has the EBU uploaded the live performances to the Eurovision YouTube page yet? I keep checking, but...

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crimsonDyname wrote:

One last comment: Has the EBU uploaded the live performances to the Eurovision YouTube page yet? I keep checking, but...

No I just checked and I don't see anything yet

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I came a bit late to this conversation:

I began to watch Eurovision since 2011 and thanks to that, I am here in LT.

But this year I didn't like it much, it was very boring and there was no "diversity" in music, although Portugal was not my favorite country, but I am so glad that Salvador Sobral won.

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Enjovher wrote:

I came a bit late to this conversation:

I began to watch Eurovision since 2011 and thanks to that, I am here in LT.

But this year I didn't like it much, it was very boring and there was no "diversity" in music, although Portugal was not my favorite country, but I am so glad that Salvador Sobral won.

His song has really grown on me, I don't dislike it as much as I did last week. But I still think Moldova had a much better song

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Btw I'm glad this forum is still going, I could discuss Eurovision for days! Teeth smile

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opulence wrote:

His song has really grown on me, I don't dislike it as much as I did last week. But I still think Moldova had a much better song

Yes, I think the same. Btw, Spain has disappointed me this year. Instead of sending song entirely in Spanish, they are opting for sending song in English (Not to mention that this year was in last place).

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Enjovher wrote:
opulence wrote:

His song has really grown on me, I don't dislike it as much as I did last week. But I still think Moldova had a much better song

Yes, I think the same. Btw, Spain has disappointed me this year. Instead of sending song entirely in Spanish, they are opting for sending song in English (Not to mention that this year was in last place).

In my opinion, Spain hasn't had a good song since Pastora Soler (spelling?)

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I love Pastora Soler Regular smile Her song Quédate conmigo is amazing! The ESC 2012 was one of the best contests I saw in Eurovision. My favorite songs of that year were:

  1. Verjamem - Eva Boto
  2. This is the night - Kurt Calleja
  3. We are the heroes - Litesound
  4. Nije ljubav stvar - Željko Joksimović
  5. Crno i belo (Црно и бело) - Kaliopi
  6. Love unlimited - Sofi Marinova
  7. Euphoria - Loreen
  8. Love is blind - Donny Montell
  9. Party For Everybody - Buránovskiye Bábushki
  10. Never Forget - Gréta Salóme & Jónsi
  11. La La Love - Ivi Adamou
  12. Zaleilah - Mandinga
  13. Aphrodisiac - Eleftheria Eleftheriou
  14. Quédate conmigo - Pasora Soler
  15. Lăutar - Pasha Parfeny
  16. Unbreakable - Sinplus
  17. Beautiful song - Anmary
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Mine are:
Lautar, Euphoria, Nije Ljubav Stvar, Quedate Conmigo, Unbreakable, Love is Blind, Zaleilah and Never Forget. In that order.

2010 and 11 were my favorite years

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I'm trying to remember a song from that I saw along with Urban Symphony but I can't find it. I know it was sung in the country's original language and I think it might have been Hungarian? but I can't for the life of me remember.

Also, why are most of the songs in English?

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It was some rule established in the 90's or something.

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Urban Symphony is from my country, the language is Estonian and the song is called Rändajad

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@ebbareaalne welcome to the club!

@opulence Ah, I see. But now I'm stuck on YT watching older Eurovision videos Tongue smile

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Thanks!

My boyfriend and my brother and I watched the American broadcast. We don't know how we can get the Estonian broadcast in Florida but it came on regular tv here. I am sad that estonias entry was disqualified because Laura's mic wasn't working for the first seconds of the song. It was delivered beautifully. I don't just like the song because it is Estonian, I think it was better by miles than last year.

I really like the Sweden song actually, and I love Romania. But France was the best.

When the Macedonian girl was proposed to it was so sweet, that was my favourite moment and I love her song, too. Dancing alone I think was the name.

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