Collections

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lt
Administrator
Joined: 27.05.2008
Pending moderation

We'd like to announce a new feature - Collections. From now on users with roles Junior Member+ can create their own collections of pages. One can add an artist, song or translation to the collection, or a mix. Creation of collection is awarded by 10 points.

Waiting for your feedback and suggestions, the feature is in beta-test phase.

Moderator of void
Joined: 27.06.2016

The big question is HOW do we CREATE these collections? Or am I the only one who doesn't see the magical "create collection" button?

Editor
Joined: 13.12.2016

I don't understand, what's the purpose of having a collection? Regular smile

Editor of Russian content
Joined: 07.07.2014
Klou wrote:

I don't understand, what's the purpose of having a collection? Regular smile

Why not?
For instance, I am going to make a collection about Ассоль (character of a book I like)

Moderator of void
Joined: 27.06.2016

And all Eurovision songs can be "collected" by year.

Senior Member
Joined: 13.04.2017

Ctrl+D has been my best way of making collections up to the moment. Wink smile Now it seems to become browser-independent...

lt
Administrator
Joined: 27.05.2008
Ivan U7n wrote:

The big question is HOW do we CREATE these collections? Or am I the only one who doesn't see the magical "create collection" button?

try "Actions" -> "Create new collection" in the menu

Moderator of void
Joined: 27.06.2016

This is what I see in the "Actions" menu:
Add new translation
Add new song
Request a translation
Request lyrics transcription
Add new idiom
Start forum thread

Editor
Joined: 13.12.2016

Why not indeed but I still don't get it, sorry. What are the collections for? Is it just to show people the songs/singers you like and for your own pleasure?

Senior Member
Joined: 13.04.2017

Well, it's like "Favourites" shared across your various browsers.

Moderator of void
Joined: 27.06.2016

Currently there is no way to collect all Eurovision songs by year (or them all) in one place, as they belong to their performers, but now for example I can create Eurovision 2017 collection and add them all to it. And it is just one thing that quickly came up to my mind.

@lt, I think it will be good to be able to add also collection to collections. (But a recursion may be a problem.)

Editor
Joined: 13.12.2016

Okay I get it now, thanks.

Super Member
Joined: 15.08.2017

It also helps with Eurovision national finals.

lt
Administrator
Joined: 27.05.2008
Ivan U7n wrote:

This is what I see in the "Actions" menu:
Add new translation
Add new song
Request a translation
Request lyrics transcription
Add new idiom
Start forum thread

It is a bug, we are investigating.

lt
Administrator
Joined: 27.05.2008
lt wrote:
Ivan U7n wrote:

This is what I see in the "Actions" menu:
Add new translation
.....
Start forum thread

It is a bug, we are investigating.

The bug is fixed, menu link should be available for Junior Members+ roles.

Moderator of void
Joined: 27.06.2016

I see it now in the desktop version, but not in the mobile one.

Senior Member
Joined: 13.04.2017

The bug has migrated to the mobile version. There's lot of room and food for it. Teeth smile

lt
Administrator
Joined: 27.05.2008
Ivan U7n wrote:

I see it now in the desktop version, but not in the mobile one.

Fixed, thanks.

lt
Administrator
Joined: 27.05.2008

Feature is in beta.
Post bugs here, or send PM. Suggestions are also welcome!

Moderator of void
Joined: 27.06.2016

Now onto adding something to collections, the interface is somewhat awful. I couldn't select neither "Крылья" nor "Boomerang" from JESC 2017 because there are just too much of them.
Still adding other collections may also be useful.

Senior Member
Joined: 13.04.2017

And how many items could be added to a collection?

Moderator of void
Joined: 27.06.2016

Additionally when collapsed, nothing is indicating what this or that item stands for.

Aɴɴɪɴɢᴀɴ & Mᴀʟɪɴᴀ.
Joined: 10.05.2012

It's a nice feature, though I'm finding it quite difficult to add some songs, especially those whose title is a single word: there are just too many results and the suggestions cannot show them all.

Senior Member
Joined: 07.05.2017

So, excuse my ignorance, does this feature have any similarity with the concept of a playlist?
Is it for sharing personal taste or is it more for a "serious" purpose (e.g. JESC as said before)?

Moderator of void
Joined: 27.06.2016

Using a picture from the URL also would be useful.

lt
Administrator
Joined: 27.05.2008
Ivan U7n wrote:

Now onto adding something to collections, the interface is somewhat awful. I couldn't select neither "Крылья" nor "Boomerang" from JESC 2017 because there are just too much of them.
Still adding other collections may also be useful.

Which songs do you want to add, exactly?

Moderator of void
Joined: 27.06.2016
Moderator of void
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Also the suggestions won't appear (at least in Firefox) if I press the "add Collection item" button. But if I "collapse" and "expand" it, it starts working OK.

Moderator and Scholar of a Dark Age
Joined: 16.02.2011

Great! I remember when it was suggested and actually recently wondered when it would be implemented Regular smile

So you decided on making collections something public, if I see that correctly, instead of something only visible to their creator?

Huh, I have some ideas for collections, but they would be pretty vast, I'll have to come up with smaller categories first.

Also, can more than one person work on the same collection? (seems to not be the case)

lt
Administrator
Joined: 27.05.2008

Try to add them by pasting the URL into the "add item" box, as a workaround.
I.e., to add "Крылья" you can paste http://lyricstranslate.com/en/polina-bogusevich-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8... into the search box

Moderator of void
Joined: 27.06.2016

I've tried this, but when I "hide" and "edit" such a item the box becomes empty. Or is this a very recent possibility?

lt
Administrator
Joined: 27.05.2008
Ivan U7n wrote:

I've tried this, but when I "hide" and "edit" such a item the field becomes empty. Or is this a very recent possibility?

Yes this is a recent addition. If URL is correct, the name of the page should appear in suggestions list under the box.

lt
Administrator
Joined: 27.05.2008
Sciera wrote:

Great! I remember when it was suggested and actually recently wondered when it would be implemented Regular smile

So you decided on making collections something public, if I see that correctly, instead of something only visible to their creator?

Huh, I have some ideas for collections, but they would be pretty vast, I'll have to come up with smaller categories first.

Also, can more than one person work on the same collection? (seems to not be the case)

No, currently it is editable by one user only, and visible for everybody. We are open for requests for more features.

Moderator of void
Joined: 27.06.2016

But I get:
An AJAX HTTP request terminated abnormally.
Debugging information follows.
Path: http://lyricstranslate.com/index.php?q=en/entityreference/autocomplete/s...
StatusText: error
ResponseText:
ReadyState: 0
PS. Currently I'm on Yandex.Browser. But thanks the more informative items when collapsed!

lt
Administrator
Joined: 27.05.2008
Ivan U7n wrote:

But I get:
An AJAX HTTP request terminated abnormally.
Debugging information follows.
Path: http://lyricstranslate.com/index.php?q=en/entityreference/autocomplete/s...
StatusText: error
ResponseText:
ReadyState: 0
PS. Currently I'm on Yandex.Browser. But thanks the more informative items when collapsed!

What page do you trying to add?

lt
Administrator
Joined: 27.05.2008

@Ivan U7n thanks for your reports, the bug was fixed. "Крылья" was added to your collection.

Moderator of void
Joined: 27.06.2016

Yep now it seems to work (but a little earlier it gave me "no match for Крылья (entry) was found", but:
1) I still need to edit/add, collapse and then edit again for the suggestions to start working;
2) When I go to "Compilations" in my profile I get redirected to 8080 port (and I think this was the reason for the AJAX error).

lt
Administrator
Joined: 27.05.2008

@Ivan U7n
1) We cannot reproduce the bug. Which version of Yandex.Browser do you use?
2) Is fixed

Moderator of void
Joined: 27.06.2016

@lt, it is browser independent in my case, I saw this behaviour in Firefox (the last version, it updates itself frequently) at work and Yandex.Browser (17.11.0.2193) at home.

The sure way for me to repeat it is: create a new collection, push the "Add Collection item" button: in this state there are no suggestions for whatever I type in the item box, press the "Collapse" button and then the "Edit" button: now suggestions start to appear.

Now I've tested it a little and if in a new collection I create just one item, no suggestions will appear, but if I add the second item, suggestions start to appear in both.

Senior Member
Joined: 13.04.2017

It doesn't work for the first item, as well as for the following ones in my Firefox too. Sad smile
Collapsing-expanding does help. Regular smile

Moderator of void
Joined: 27.06.2016

Also I've noticed that then I press the "Edit" or "Collapse" button a lot of times, sometimes the browser scrolls up all the way to the top of the page. It is not always reproducible , but still very annoying. I can even guess the reason: the fade out and fade in of the page for the DOM change.

Moderator of void
Joined: 27.06.2016

Additionally it seems that created collections are displayed as empty records in "friends feed".

Moderator in constant evolution
Joined: 05.04.2012

@lt, Sciera just opened a new collection that is shown in 'Site activity'. I can edit it.

Moderator and Scholar of a Dark Age
Joined: 16.02.2011
Alma Barroca wrote:

@lt, Sciera just opened a new collection that is shown in 'Site activity'. I can edit it.

Via the edit button I can also edit collections by other users - but since that button for normal users is only available for their own content, I strongly assume that also collections by other users can only be edited by editors/mods.

Moderator and Scholar of a Dark Age
Joined: 16.02.2011

The 2 collections I added aren't listed in my profile. I suppose it's because I left the "description" field empty?

Moderator and Scholar of a Dark Age
Joined: 16.02.2011

Also, that "show row weights"-feature is pretty handy for moving entries to the beginning or end of the list, but it's not exactly intuitive to use.

Moderator and Scholar of a Dark Age
Joined: 16.02.2011

When getting a like on a collection, I get the notification "[user name] likes your forum topic" (i.e. it's wrongly referred to as a forum topic).

Moderator of Eternity
Joined: 21.06.2013
Sciera wrote:

The 2 collections I added aren't listed in my profile. I suppose it's because I left the "description" field empty?

Sciera, I see your collections. Maybe it was something temporary?

Moderator of void
Joined: 27.06.2016

It's me again. Wink smile Displaying the description for the items is inconsistent. When editing items of a collection the line breaks are turned into paragraphs and video tags are parsed. But when viewing a collection there's no line breaks and video tags are left untouched.

Miss Pumpkin~
Joined: 26.09.2017

Hey~ ! I love the idea of collections! But I have a suggestion.
I'm working on a Disney-Pixar song collection, and as you can imagine, it will be a BIG collection... so I think it'd be better if we could have an "Add collection item" button at the begining of the list too (not just at the end). When the list gets too long it turns tedious to scroll all the way down to add a new item. I don't think I'm gonna be the only one who makes a collection like this, so that could be an improvement.

(I know this is new~ so I'm not expecting everything to be perfect).

Moderator and Scholar of a Dark Age
Joined: 16.02.2011
taddy26 wrote:
Sciera wrote:

The 2 collections I added aren't listed in my profile. I suppose it's because I left the "description" field empty?

Sciera, I see your collections. Maybe it was something temporary?

Me, too, now. Either it was the cache or it was fixed already.
They now also are in the general collections list: http://lyricstranslate.com/en/collections

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