Republishing without Permission . . .

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The First Time-Traveler
Joined: 08.12.2016
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I've recently been putting up some original work of mine on this site in various languages and recently I came across something interesting. I found that my work was being posted without anyone even asking me on various sites. I'm fine with posting my work on other sites; I just would like to know where it's going. The troubling part is that for some reason my computer said that the majority of these sites have viruses on them . . . I used a Linux computer and an Oracle Solaris computer to view these sites, being that the malware was supposedly infectious to Windows systems. As a test, I put up a poem I wrote a while ago in Spanish, "En busca de almas", and waited to see how long it would be uploaded to one of these sites. In less than thirty minutes it was posted on this site (with malicious software on it) and I traced back the sender to their exact address. Can the person who's doing this kindly send me a private message to address this? I also have your name and email . . . so please just contact me before I have to invade your privacy . . . Tchau Wink smile

Nemrég voltam szállt az eredeti néhány művem ezen az oldalon a különböző nyelveken, és a közelmúltban rábukkantam valami érdekes. Hogy én találtam munkám volt, hogy írt anélkül, hogy bárki is kért engem különböző helyszíneken. Jól vagyok és a munkámat kiküldetés más oldalakon; Csak szeretném tudni, hogy hová megy. Az aggasztó az egészben, hogy valamilyen oknál fogva a számítógép azt mondta, hogy a legtöbb ezek a helyek a vírusok rájuk. . . Régebben egy Linux számítógép és egy Oracle Solaris számítógépen megtekintheti Ezek a helyek, a rosszindulatú program volt, hogy állítólag, hogy a fertőző Windows rendszereket. Próbaképpen tettem fel egy verset írtam egy ideje spanyol, „A kereső a lelkek”, és vártam, hogy milyen hosszú lenne feltölteni egy ilyen oldalak. Kevesebb mint harminc perc alatt azt ezen az oldalon (rosszindulatú szoftver rajta), és én vezethető vissza, hogy a feladó Pontos címet. A személy, aki csinál esta szíves küldj privát üzenetet ez ellen? Nekem is van a neved és e-mail. . . ezért kérjük, keressen meg, mielőtt azt kell támadják meg a magány . . . Tchau Wink smile

Language Enthusiast
Joined: 02.05.2011

It's probably a bot that's scraping the site for content and not a real person. I'm not sure how much you can do about things like that.

The First Time-Traveler
Joined: 08.12.2016

I assumed that. However, unluckily for the person who made them they all lead to the same source . . . In fact, I even have a picture of their face.

Moderator of the Balkans :)
Joined: 07.12.2012

Sorry to hear this happened to you... What I could suggest is that if you know who they are, you could write a PM to lt and they'll be banned - we definitely do not encourage stealing translations.

Moderator / hippie-abraça-árvore
Joined: 30.04.2014

But copy + paste they could do without having an account...

Which sites contain the malware? I sometimes look for lyrics via google and would like to know if there are lyrics sites that contain malware...

The First Time-Traveler
Joined: 08.12.2016

I wouldn't suggest going on these sites but some of the few examples I do remember are: letra24.top (Portuguese/English), letra365.top (Spanish/English), versuri.club (Romanian/English), and tekst-piosenki.info (Polish/English). The person who made these sites is a Hungarian software engineer named Krisztian Molnar who works at AdNovum in Budapest. He registered these sites in the Hungarian city of Szeged and in fact I even have pictures of his face. I think there might be bots posing as users on this site . . . for example check out: http://lyricstranslate.com/en/translator/marineclerot. There are a bunch of them. I don't know if these are bots for sure but I just find it oddly suspicious that there is a large number of them and that they were last active December 31, 1969 when they registered on days like February 11, 2013 . . .

Moderator
Joined: 16.01.2013

I've just checked whois and indeed it's the same person. Do you mean this nice looking guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H71BCsM73ZE ?

I guess he steals only the lyrics, but not the translations. Am I correct? (I'm not going to check these sites.)

The First Time-Traveler
Joined: 08.12.2016

He steals only lyrics but that isn't him. I also notice that he hasn't only stolen my original work but also Phantasmagoria and SilentRebel83's work too. This guy is more saavy so he hides himself well on the web . . . I have a link to his LinkedIn here if you want to take a look: https://hu.linkedin.com/in/kriszti%C3%A1n-moln%C3%A1r-35576a117. I'm not sure how to upload the picture of him but his LinkedIn has a picture of him . . .

Moderator
Joined: 16.01.2013

I was of course kidding. I’ve found him on LinkedIn too. I was afraid to check these sites that you mentioned, but what I noticed from Google search at least he gives credits to the authors.

I would advice you to write similar comments about your copyrights like I have them in my profile and they are automatically shown beneath my translations. Of course that doesn’t guarantee anything, but some people get frightened seeing them. Maybe bots check them too.

You should write to Lt (here you will find the “send PM” link: http://lyricstranslate.com/en/translator/lt) and describe the situation. Its important to give the link to all the users’ accounts that you suspect to be bots, like the one that you’ve linked, so that the admins could check them before they get deleted.

Moderator of Romance Languages
Joined: 31.03.2012

@O.A. Ramos If possible, can you send me a PM to where you've seen him post my translations? Also please send me his contact information, does he only know Hungarian? Thank you.

I just want to contact him to let him know I didn't give him permission, then I'm going to find a way to have copy + paste disabled somehow, or hide a disclaimer in the lyrics themselves. I'm not bothered that he'd steal my translations, just a little insulted that he wouldn't ask first. Welp, that's the internet for you.

Moderator
Joined: 16.01.2013

Ellen, for sure he speaks English, but I'm afraid he may ignore you. If that happens the best way would be to threaten him that you would inform his bosses that he operates few sites which violate the copyrights and it means his activity must be seen as illegal. As he's a software specialist he knows very well what he's doing and I don't think his company would be happy because of their worker's activity and that may cost him his job.

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What an unfortunate and malicious act to which we're all exposed, but fortunately
there is good advice here to put us all on alert. Thank you, O.A.

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He steals only lyrics but that isn't him.

Qui vole un œuf vole un bœuf, my friend. Be careful, everybody. Stay safe.

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Joined: 16.01.2013

On tekstowo.pl I found this: http://www.tekstowo.pl/piosenki_artysty,silentrebel83.html

I have added Josh as an author there - with his agreement - and the first of the listed translations. Adamusap (http://www.tekstowo.pl/profil,adamusap,dodane_tlumaczenia,strona,1.html) has submitted the rest.

This guy has also copied many translations from LT. Just some examples (Azalia): http://www.tekstowo.pl/piosenka,lax_n_busto,no__s_massa_tard.html and http://www.tekstowo.pl/piosenka,els_catarres,sota_la_llum_del_sol.html
or: (Solitude): http://www.tekstowo.pl/piosenka,ithilien,through_wind_and_snow.html
or (W-cztery-oczy): http://www.tekstowo.pl/piosenka,rebeka_dremelj,ne_bo__se_igral.html and http://www.tekstowo.pl/piosenka,rebeka_dremelj,pojdi_z_menoj.html
and many more - also of other our users. This list is very long.

He has added the links, but I am not sure whether the authors would agree with that. The same of course applies to the lyrics itself. We had a case on LT when an author didn’t agree to publish her lyrics here and we were forced to unpublish them.

I showed you these examples, but it’s up to the users to decide whether they agree to copy their work on other sites. I don’t and that’ clearly visible beneath my translations, but others may agree.

Moderator of the Oceanic Realms
Joined: 22.04.2011

On a hunch, I performed a Google search with my username here on LT. And I saw that my works were re-published on different sites which I won't list here for security reasons stated in earlier comments. But some of my poems were re-posted with permission as Andrzej mentioned.

I personally have no problems with it. As a fellow member has said in his signature on LT, "Do whatever you want with my translations. I'm not rich enough to sue you anyway."
Sadly, I fall under the same predicament. Wink smile

edit: Many thanks to @Sciera and @Aldefina [Andrzej] for bringing my attention to this thread Regular smile

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I personally have no problems with it. As a fellow member has said in his signature on LT, "Do whatever you want with my translations. I'm not rich enough to sue you anyway."
Sadly, I fall under the same predicament

Ah, that's Petit-Élève's famous phrase. Regular smile

I really don't mind people reposting my work, even if they aren't kind
enough to credit me. I know it will happen, regardless.
What does bothers me is where they choose to post it. There is nothing I can
personally do about it in the end. All I recommend is that people stay safe,if they can.

Moderator
Joined: 16.01.2013

Actually it's not a problem for me when people copy my translations, but only when they add my copyrights, the same way as I do it here. The thing is they usually don't do it. So far only twice I was asked whether they can and I agreed.

In one case my translation landed on YT, but it was removed quickly after I had asked. The worst site is tekstowo.pl. I'm also registered as a user there and all my attempts to unpublish my stolen work failed. Moderators ignored me. I found a different way. I ask them to add my copyrights and they accept that.

Moderator of Romance Languages
Joined: 31.03.2012

@O.A. Ramos I got your PM, thank you.

I don't really care at this point, my translations aren't a work of art. Although I'm proud of them (although not always satisfied with them), I honestly don't give two figs Wink smile what they do with them, I just find it kinda rude but okay.