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Which syllables should be stressed in these words?
Yaparım
Yapacağım
Yaptığım
Yaptıkları
Yapsın
Yapmasın
Yapınca
Yapıp
Or maybe you could give me a link for books or sites with information about stress in Turkish?
Turkish stressed syllables
Hi. All the syllables are stressed in these words. Except the second and the third ones. As "ğ" isn't pronounced so it becomes something like that yah-pah -caah- m (Yapacağım).
I don't know, but this seems like an interesting question.
@taddy26: I'm not sure we understand the same thing by "stressed".
I would assume from your explanation that you rather understood the question here as "which letters get pronounced, are there any silent letters?".
Normally, I'd understand it as "which syllable of each word is pronounced more strongly/louder/with higher pitch than the others, i.e. has the main word stress on it?".
I don't know, but this seems like an interesting question.
@taddy26: I'm not sure we understand the same thing by "stressed".
I would assume from your explanation that you rather understood the question here as "which letters get pronounced, are there any silent letters?".
Normally, I'd understand it as "which syllable of each word is pronounced more strongly/louder/with higher pitch than the others, i.e. has the main word stress on it?".
Oh, yeah, seems like I've understood yet another thing. Thanks for clarification.
Well, usually the last syllables are stressed. Exception for some loanwords. But we usually stress the last syllables when speaking. Furthermore, there are some suffixes that they are not stressed, so you'll need to stress the syllable before the particular suffix. I can make the list of those suffixes if you want.
- "de" (conjuction)
- "ki" (conjuction) ["-ki" adjective forming suffix is stressed]
- " ile, iken, ise, idi, İmiş" and their short forms
- " -im, -sın, -dir, -iz, -sinir, -dirler" (verb forming suffixes)
- "-gil"
- "-ma/me" (negative sentences forming suffixes)
- "-yor" (present tense forming suffix)
- "-arak/ınca/casına[cesine] (adverb forming suffixes)
- "-stan" (this suffix forms geographical places. E.g Yunanistan [Greece])
Oh, well, this is the best that I can..
Another one just came to my mind:
- "-lar/ler" they are stressed when you add them to nouns (kalemler, but they are not stressed when you add them to verbs, you must stres the syllable before that then (geldiler)
Ya-PA-rım (Verb)
Ya-pa-CAĞ-ım (Verb)
Ya-pa-cağ-IM (Adjective)
Yap-tı-ĞIM (Adjective)
Yap-tık-la-RI (Adjective)
Yap-SIN (Subjunctive)
YAP-ma-sın (Negative subjunctive)
Ya-PIN-ca (Verbal adverb)
Ya-PIP (Verbal adverb)
"Stress" means "vurgu" in Turkish. There are two types "vurgu":
1- Kelimede vurgu (Stress in words)
2- Cümlede vurgu (Stress in sentences)
Unfortunately it's hard to find articles in English. Here are some information in Turkish:
http://www.dilbilgisi.net/konular/vurgu/ (Stress in words)
http://www.edebiyatogretmeni.info/turkcede-vurgunun-ozellikleri.htm (Stress in words)
https://www.cokbilgi.com/yazi/vurgu-nedir-kelime-ve-cumle-vurgusu/ (Stress in words)
http://www.dilbilgisi.net/konular/cumle-bilgisi/cumle-vurgusu/ (Stress in sentences)
why are those words adjectives?
"Ya-pa-cağ-IM (Adjective)
Yap-tı-ĞIM (Adjective)
Yap-tık-la-RI (Adjective)"
"yapacagim" means "I will do it" it is future!
why are those words adjectives?
"Ya-pa-cağ-IM (Adjective)
Yap-tı-ĞIM (Adjective)
Yap-tık-la-RI (Adjective)""yapacagim" means "I will do it" it is future!
While you are right that "yapacağım" is a verb, but "yapacağım" may also be a Participial Adjective. Those words are both verbs and participial adjectives.
E.g "yapacağım iş" - the work that I shall do.
Thank you very much! Teşekkür ederim!
In films in Turkish I heard like "yapıyOrum, gidiyOrum", but here you write that YOR is unstressed. So what is true?
Thank you very much! Teşekkür ederim!
In films in Turkish I heard like "yapıyOrum, gidiyOrum", but here you write that YOR is unstressed. So what is true?
Stress each syllable, then you'll see "yor" is unstressed.
YapıyOrum doesn't sound well to me. I have never stressed present tense forming suffix whole my life. Neither in Azerbaijani nor in Turkish. Maybe you heard wrong?
I have one more question: -sı -si -su -sü are stressed?
For example, how is read Kız Kulesi?
And how are read ben kızım / benim kızım?
I have one more question: -sı -si -su -sü are stressed?
Yes, they are stressed.
For example, how is read Kız Kulesi?
Kiz kulesi
And how are read ben kızım / benim kızım?
Benim im
Ben kizim.
Actually, the suffix is not "-si" at the end of "Kız Kulesi". It's -s-i and the -s is auxiliary consonant: Kız Kule+i ---> Kız Kule+s+i
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-i#Turkish
"If the word ends in a vowel, it's used with an auxiliary consonant; "y" for the accusative case suffix and "s" for the possessive suffix"
About the stress: if the "kulesi" word is alone, it's "KuleSİ". But with the "Kız", it's like a combined word: "Kızkulesi". This situation is defined as "Belirtisiz isim tamlaması" or "indefinite possessive construction" which includes no suffix in first word. And the stress in here is like that: KIZkulesi
http://dilimizistikbalimizdir.blogspot.com.tr/2013/11/vurgu.html
Tamlamalarda vurgu, genellikle ilk sözcüklerin son hecelerindedir.
(For possesive constructions, the stress is generally in the last sylable of first words)
There are various possessive constructions. If it's "Belirtili isim tamlaması" (definite possessive construction) which includes suffix in first word, the stresses exist in both words: kızın arabası --->kızIN arabaSI
It would be complicated for the beginning. You should memorise some rules by listening or speaking and searching different examples. Maybe text-to-speech engine of "Google Translate" can be useful. You can listen variations of sentences with it:
https://translate.google.com/#tr/en/k%C4%B1z%20kulesi.
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"Kizkulesi" is a compound noun, then you're right it is KIZkulesi, but Kiz kulesi is a phrase, then Kiz kuleSI
"Kizkulesi" is a compound noun, then you're right it is KIZkulesi, but Kiz kulesi is a phrase, then Kiz kuleSI
Beyond the phrase, we can define all of the "Belirtisiz isim tamlaması"s as compound nouns: "EL-arabası", "oKUL-yolu", "KIŞ-soğuğu", "soKAK-kapısı", "aNA-yüreği". There aren't any "vurgu"s in second words.
"Kizkulesi" is a compound noun, then you're right it is KIZkulesi, but Kiz kulesi is a phrase, then Kiz kuleSI
Beyond the phrase, we can define all of the "Belirtisiz isim tamlaması"s as compound nouns: "EL-arabası", "oKUL-yolu", "KIŞ-soğuğu", "soKAK-kapısı", "aNA-yüreği". There aren't any "vurgu"s in second words.
Ah, I always thought that second words were stressed, lol. I don't always succeed in that lol :d
