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Help with transcribing Cold War by GRANT

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<a href="/ar/translator/swedens0ur" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1334503">swedensour</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 09.04.2017
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Here's a link to the song on youtube, but it's a bit easier to find on Spotify: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQptK6lFO9c
This is what I've got so far

You're the one I'll never get
I'm the one you can't forget
It's never easy but we try,
We stay friends and go on with our lives

Your body on my mind
The birthmark on your thigh
Midnight embraces between crumpled sheets
Forced a pace on my fragile heartbeats (?)

It was a cold war
Suspicious minds and locking the doors
A cold war,
It takes some time to forget how we felt before
Love is lost and the lack of trust is feeling you up

Lovers slowly drowned
Friendships could survive
How do we act
When the other one's around
When we part, can I kiss you goodbye?

Your words on my mind
I guess that I was fighting this ... (?)
So we're at the story of how we once met
And maybe someday I'll finally forget

It was a cold war
Suspicious minds and locking the doors
A cold war,
It takes some time to forget how we felt before
Love is lost and the lack of trust is feeling you up

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<a href="/ar/translator/michealt" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1222532">michealt</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 11.10.2014

Here's what it sounds like to me, Samantha. The last line of teh fifth stanza doesn't appear to make sense - but I've no idea what dialect of English she is using, but I guess she is Scandinavian. I hear the song differently from you in several places, and suspect you may be falling into the trap of makng the script gramatically sound and the meaning clear, when what is actually sung is only almost grammatically sound and almost clear, while I'm maybe falling into the trap of taking the singer's pronunciation as if she were trying to sing received standard English in the loose and sloppy way that it is mostly used in informal speech, but very few people ever speak that and even fewer sing it.

You're the one I'll never get
You're the one I can't forget
It's never easy though we try,
We stay friends and go on with our lives

You're the body on my mind
Birthmark on your thigh
Midnight embraces between crumpled sheets
Forced a pace on fragile heartbeats.

You're the cold boy
Suspicious mind and off you would go
You're the cold boy
It takes some time to forget how we felt before
Love is lost and lack of trust is feeling new, aooh

Lover and story drowned
Friendships could survive
How do we act then
the other once round?
When we part, should I kiss you goodbye?

Your words on my mind
because the hour is frightened, is blind,
We're at the story of how we once met
Maybe some day I'll chain for a game [? what can that mean ?]

You're a little cold, boy
Suspicious minds now open the door
It was a cold morn,
It takes some time to forget now how we were
Love is lost and lack of trust is feeling new all night.

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<a href="/ar/translator/swedens0ur" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1334503">swedensour</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 09.04.2017
michealt napisał:

Here's what it sounds like to me, Samantha. The last line of teh fifth stanza doesn't appear to make sense - but I've no idea what dialect of English she is using, but I guess she is Scandinavian. I hear the song differently from you in several places, and suspect you may be falling into the trap of makng the script gramatically sound and the meaning clear, when what is actually sung is only almost grammatically sound and almost clear, while I'm maybe falling into the trap of taking the singer's pronunciation as if she were trying to sing received standard English in the loose and sloppy way that it is mostly used in informal speech, but very few people ever speak that and even fewer sing it.

Hi Michael! She is from Sweden, yes, so that could explain why the English isn't totally perfect in some areas. You're probably right about me falling into the trap of wanting to make the text grammatically correct, and I wouldn't be surprised that someone is interpreting it differently from me, sometimes I have trouble with understanding sung language and hear things incorrectly. It happens. Your transcription does seem correct but I am stuck on that line in the 5th stanza as well. Maybe trying to sound too informal was the singer's undoing?

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<a href="/ar/translator/michealt" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1222532">michealt</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 11.10.2014

That line in the fifth stanza is really problematic. I can't believe she would mispronounce "change the game" (or maybe "change the whole game", but that's not very English) so that it sounds like "chain for a game" but I can't think of anything else she might be trying to say that sounds like what she sings.

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<a href="/ar/translator/swedens0ur" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1334503">swedensour</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 09.04.2017

Hmmm I might have to listen to it again and see what it sounds like again. I can’t imagine pronouncing change the game that incorrectly, even for someone whose native language isn’t English.

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<a href="/ar/translator/michealt" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1222532">michealt</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 11.10.2014

We both feel that. It might be a useful to ask someone whose native language is Swedish what they make of it - do you know any LT members who are Swedish and have some English capability?

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<a href="/ar/translator/swedens0ur" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1334503">swedensour</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 09.04.2017

Yeah most Swedes have really good English. The issue is finding people who speak Swedish and are active but I’ll tag a couple [@crackedwalnut] [@Isterdam] [@ninni97]

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I think Tom's transcription is pretty close. Just a couple of possible variants:

off you would go -> off your will goes (???)
is feeling new -> is filling you
Lover and story drowned -> lovers slowly drown
should I kiss you goodbye -> can I...
because the hour is frightened, is blind -> ...the ?hour? frighten, is right (???)
We're at the story of how we once me -> so we write story/stories of how....
lack of trust is feeling new all night. -> ...is filling you all

I can't make out what she says in "maybe some day I'll ch?? ?all day?"

Interesting singer. Her sincerity is touching and her voice can deliver.

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<a href="/ar/translator/crackedwalnut" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1397626">crackedwalnut</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 01.10.2018

Hey guys! Native Swede here!

I found another version, give it a listen because it's much clearer > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lgCzkPgdgs

To me, it definitely sounds like she's singing "And maybe some day I'll actually forget" in the fifth stanza!

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<a href="/ar/translator/swedens0ur" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1334503">swedensour</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 09.04.2017
crackedwalnut napisał:

To me, it definitely sounds like she's singing "And maybe some day I'll actually forget" in the fifth stanza!

Det tyckte jag! I guess I'm familiar with Swedish accents at this point.

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<a href="/ar/translator/swedens0ur" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1334503">swedensour</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 09.04.2017
ingirumimusnocte napisał:

Interesting singer. Her sincerity is touching and her voice can deliver.

I quite like her as well, her song Shimmer is one of the songs I listen to most at the moment.

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<a href="/ar/translator/michealt" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1222532">michealt</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 11.10.2014

Thanks, crackedwalnut. That's much clearer throughout than the video we were working from. There are quite a few differences from what we have currently, and I think that some of them may not be because she sings more clearly, but because she sings different words. So maybe we now have two diffeent versions of the song. I guess it would be best to replace the video by the new clearer one and change the words to fit - that way the lyrics and the video would match.

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<a href="/ar/translator/swedens0ur" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1334503">swedensour</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 09.04.2017

Should I watch the new video and try to come up with a new transcription from that and then we compare again?

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<a href="/ar/translator/sandring" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1263066">sandring</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 18.10.2015

Tom, Samantha, OMG, I remember doing that but where did my suggestions go? I must have forgotten to post them and now they're lost. I'll do that again. Why are some people so stupid? And Samantha, I remember about your Dingo song. Regular smile

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<a href="/ar/translator/swedens0ur" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1334503">swedensour</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 09.04.2017

Awww Nadia, sorry that you didn't post them, I hope it's not too much work to redo it!

Yeah I'm always in the forums for help with transcriptions. :p Maybe I should stop trying to do them so much.

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<a href="/ar/translator/sandring" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1263066">sandring</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 18.10.2015

You're the one I'll never get
I'm the one you can't forget
It's never easy but we try,
We stay friends and go on with our lives

Your body on my mind
The birthmark on your thigh
Midnight embraces between crumpled sheets
It forced the pace of my fragile heartbeats

He was a cold war
Suspicious minds and locking the doors
It was a cold war,
It takes some time to forget how we felt before
Love is lost and the lack of trust is filling you up

Lovers slowly drown
Friendships curse your life
How do we act
When the other ones around
When we part can kiss you goodbye?

Your words on my mind
I guess that I was fighting this blind
So you act the story of Harvey 1, who owns me
And maybe someday I'll excel you, boy, again

He was a cold war
Suspicious minds and locking the doors
He was a cold war,
It takes some time to forget how we felt before
Love is lost and the lack of trust is filling you up

  • 1. a coctail with vodka or gin. The boy tries to run her down as a heavy drinker
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<a href="/ar/translator/swedens0ur" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1334503">swedensour</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 09.04.2017

Hey everyone I won't really be on over the weekend so I'll get back to this on Monday.

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<a href="/ar/translator/sandring" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1263066">sandring</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 18.10.2015

Samantha, I've been transcribing since the age of ten. And I got one thing clear. Transcribing is like seeking the truth. You may blunder and fall, get up and go on but you can never stop. Like you can never stop seeking the truth. Regular smile

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<a href="/ar/translator/isterdam" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1338958">Isterdam</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 21.05.2017

"So you act the story of Harvey, who owns me
And maybe someday I'll excel you, boy, again"

Should perhaps be:

"So (you act/we're at/rewrite) the story of how we once met
And maybe someday I'll actually forget"

I also believe all the "he was a cold war" should be "it was a cold war".

Don't really know why, but some Swedes have taken one step further than "alveolar flapping" (t -> d) and almost completely omit the t/d in English. Hence, "met" can easily be mistaken for "me" (with a shorter e), and "it" for "he". But what do I know, I wouldn't even pass for a hobby linguist. 

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<a href="/ar/translator/michealt" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1222532">michealt</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 11.10.2014

I think there are a couple of places where neither of the two videos we have looked at has a soundtrack that matches your transcription, Nadia.

Based on the vidteo that crackedwalnut suggested (which is much clearer than the one we were using earlier) I would disagree with your text as follows:-
stanza 1 line 3 : "though" not "but"
stanza 4 line 4 : "one's" "ones"
stanza 4 line 5 : "can I kiss" not "can kiss"
stanza 5 line 3 = "Do you act the story of how we once met?
stanza 5 line 4 : "I'll actually forget" not "I'll excel you, boy, again"
stanza 6 line 5 : "trust's" not "trust is"

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<a href="/ar/translator/swedens0ur" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1334503">swedensour</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 09.04.2017

I agree with Isterdam and michaelt. I think we’re reading a bit too much into the singer’s accent.

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<a href="/ar/translator/sandring" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1263066">sandring</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 18.10.2015

Samantha, we're just giving you various options to choose from. The final decision is always yours, after all. Regular smile

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<a href="/ar/translator/swedens0ur" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1334503">swedensour</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 09.04.2017

Hi everyone, I'm sorry for the delay, I'm usually only active on weekdays while I'm at work. I will be listening to and contributing shortly but I won't be active much today either (long story short, I hurt my ankle and don't feel like doing much of anything). Sorry everyone!

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<a href="/ar/translator/bilgeakbas" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1387365">callmevilg</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 26.06.2018

Get well soon!! 💙💫

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<a href="/ar/translator/swedens0ur" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1334503">swedensour</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 09.04.2017
bilgeakbas napisał:

Get well soon!! 💙💫

Thank you! I hope you're doing well.

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<a href="/ar/translator/bilgeakbas" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1387365">callmevilg</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 26.06.2018

Ohh, yes! I'm really fine "except for my exams" lol. Thanks for asking 😻💕

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<a href="/ar/translator/swedens0ur" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1334503">swedensour</a>
تاريخ الانضمام: 09.04.2017

Yeah, exams aren't fun at all. I don't miss college for that reason haha

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