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natalievelina в(ъв)/на 2020-10-19
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Jadis
понеделник, 19/10/2020 - 07:46
Thank you ! I thought perhaps "sjö" would rather mean "the sea" here ? Later they sing about "havet", and maybe "floden" here means "the flow", even it today it seems to be rather "the river". It seems to me difficult to drown in a lake, in an ocean and in a river at the same time. :)
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The theme is the same as in this song
natalievelina
вторник, 20/10/2020 - 12:41
hello! i changed it. i searched in a collection of the three main dictionaries in sweden, and 'sjö' can refer to 'sea', even though the proper translation would be 'lake'. also, 'floden' i'm unsure of would be 'the flow' because i'm not sure what she's actually talking about.
natalievelina
вторник, 20/10/2020 - 14:03
yes. "vålder" is "våller"/"vållar", but from around 1750 instead of the 1500's.
"våller" whould be the same as "vållar" which is "to cause something" usually negative, but in this case since it's "våller I mig den tungan" it is literally "(you) are causing me (to) with that tongue". i could change it to "causing (or bringing) me to with that tongue" but what she is brought to would be unclear.
Jadis
вторник, 20/10/2020 - 14:28
Thank you for explanations, I learned something again! I first thought that "tungan" could mean "heavy" (tung), but clearly "den tungan" rather refers to the tongue. I suppose it could mean something like "my tongue is sore, my tongue aches" ? But this no more than a mere hypothesis. I guess I have to learn some old Swedish in my spare time... :)
I found a slightly different version of the same song here (pg 57).
BTW, you can use the word "seashore" in English, it's quite common.
natalievelina
вторник, 20/10/2020 - 16:24
no, it wouldn't. it's more like "(you) are making me (follow you to the seashore) with your tongue (by telling me)". word for word it is "making me you that tongue" but with correct grammar and with context in mind it is "(you) are making (do something) me with that tongue". i suppose you could use "forcing me" just to point out that it's something negative.
i know, by the way. it's just to point out that "sjöastrand' sounds odd in swedish. the 'a' in the middle is just an add-on, nowadays dialectal. so it was just to point the weirdness out in english as well.
Mine Too
четвъртък, 22/10/2020 - 23:46
Hello Natalievelina :) thanks for the translation. I found in the youtube page a comment with the translation pinned among the first ones by the band, but some parts of that seems less adherent to the original text than yours, so thanks for your efforts!
The song is indeed about two sisters, the older one so envious that ends up to kill the younger by pushing her in the sea. Some fisherman create an harp with the body of the deceased sister and play it at the wedding of the older one. Somehow, the harp becomes magic and the story of the murder is sung to all.
natalievelina
петък, 23/10/2020 - 00:47
thanks for the comment, i appreciate it! (:
i checked their translation out, but it is deviating from the original text. it's a lot more poetic and more of a translation of a poem than it is just a literal translation, which would mean it's more creative than the other.
Unbug Unman
вторник, 04/05/2021 - 19:45
The last line should translate to "My sister is cursed" i.e. the magical harp take revenge on her sister by cursing her. That is atleast how I interpret it.
Geborgenheit
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