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Rap Music in France

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LoupSolo
<a href="/bn/translator/kwamegh" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1402305">kwameGH</a>
যোগদান: 13.11.2018
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This is mainly for lovers of rap music.
How is rap regarded in France, given that in America it is a major part of the music industry and enjoyed by both the old and the young? (I get the impression that rap in France is just for the youth)
And who are the best French rappers now, excluding hardcore rappers? Personally, I love Lefa, Black M, Nekfeu and Bigflo and Oli, though there might be good/better rappers I don't know yet. If it helps, the criteria are flow, wordplay and rhyme, meaningful lyrics.

Editor , Leader of the Balkan Squad
<a href="/bn/translator/crimsondyname" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1311076">crimsonDyname</a>
যোগদান: 14.10.2016

Personally, Maître Gims is my favourite French rapper.

LoupSolo
<a href="/bn/translator/kwamegh" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1402305">kwameGH</a>
যোগদান: 13.11.2018

Personally, I don't regard Maître Gims as a rapper. Even with Sexion he was doing much singing. And I think the lot of his rap songs are not good enough.

Editor , Leader of the Balkan Squad
<a href="/bn/translator/crimsondyname" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1311076">crimsonDyname</a>
যোগদান: 14.10.2016

Perhaps it would be more fair to describe him as a rapper/singer. I agree--he does sing more than rap.

Editor Slim Shady
<a href="/bn/translator/jethro-paris" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1225135">Jethro Paris</a>
যোগদান: 05.11.2014

Rap is actually the kind of music the most listened and the most made in France. Almost only rappers were present in the thirty most listened to artists in France in 2018 on Spotify! And Désaccordé by Vald was the most listened to music in France on Spotify in 2018! I don't know exactly if it's listened to by all the generations in France, but what's for sure is that rap has a very important place in the industry! There is also a lot of featuring in rap between American and French artists. I am thinking in particular of Future or Gucci Mane with Kaaris, 6IX9INE with SCH or Lacrim, and more recently, YBN Cordae with Orelsan, etc.
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Maitre Gims and Black M are two rappers pretty hated by rap fans because of their commercial nature, because they do more pop than rap today. In my opinion, I no longer like Black M but Maitre Gims still knows how to make very good rap music with an exceptional flow and good punchlines and still has a very beautiful voice, it must be said. Actually, I think the only survivor of Sexion d'Assaut is Lefa. 
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Personally, I've never been into BigFlo and Oli. Because their texts are actually very simple, and the topics they cover, everyone already knows it, and so in the end, it's very easy to get known. And I don't like their characters (they didn't like that Orelsan refuses a featuring when he's the one who gave them a bit of fame first)
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Here are some French rappers I really like:
Orelsan - He's a rapper who can make a song full of funny punchlines but whose next music will be very serious with deep and sad words. If you like BigFlo and Oli, then you'll like Orelsan for sure! Here are some examples:Défaite de Famille - J'essaye, j'essaye - Discipline - Peur de l'Echec - Suicide Social - Rêves Bizarres
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Vald - Vald is quite hard to describe because he can be so mysterious. Some describe him as a troll, others as a genius, others as a French Eminem. What's certain is that Vald really doesn't like it when you call him that. Personally, I think it's a mix between a troll and someone with imagination. On the other hand, I do not agree that it is a French Eminem because they are too different and do not have the same experience. But Vald managed to create his own universe, he made a name for himself mainly in music where he is not serious, where he trolls, which often gave him an image of someone who is not serious, always high. But since he released his album Xeu, much more serious than anything else he made, that has finally changed. In any case, Vald's writing style is really extraordinary, especially the rhyme scheme. Here are some example, (You may have to use a VPN because Vald's clips are blocked in America)
Serious song: Autiste - Barême - Vitrine - Promesse - Si J'arrêtais
Troll songs: Bonjour - Envie - Ostud - Strip - Lezarman
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Vald has a best friend, Suikon Blaze AD, with whom he started rapping. At the time, Suikon Blaze was doing a lot of feat with Vald but never released solo albums and there are only 2 solo musics of him. Many fans would really like Suikon Blaze to do a solo project because he is really very strong. Other people also say that Suikon Blaze is the French Eminem, I'm already pretty much more in agreement with that than with Vald. Cause he sometimes uses the same tone of voice as Eminem and may have the same flow, especially the one from Relapse, which can be heard in Infanticide:Infanticide - Offshore - Dis Moi Tout BB - Qui Dit Mieux
Also, I almost translated all the music of Vald and Orelsan in LT Wink smile
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Lorenzo - Lorenzo is a troll. That's all you need to remember. Because many people, even in France, take him seriously. While it's obvious his lyrics are bullshit. Lorenzo is a character, he's not real. He's a guy who loves weed above all else, who has a horrible voice, who says English words with a very strong French accent, crazy lyrics, etc. etc. He also makes funny videos, I don't know if you want to see them but you can easily find them. Here are some music:Freestyle du sale - Petit Prince - Carton Rouge - Bizarre - Champagne et Petou 
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Columbine - Columbine is a group, of which Lorenzo was a part. The funny thing is that at the time, Lorenzo was not rapping in the band, he was only in charge of the clips. Before, Columbine was mostly a troll band, but they are now serious. Yro (almost everytime as Charles Vicomte, a rich character he made), Foda C and Lujipeka re the leaders, even if Yro kinda doens't rap anymore. Here's their evolution:Vicomte - Dom Perignon - Les Prélis - Cache Cache - Adieu Bientôt
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Django DKZ - Secondly, Django DKZ is a rapper who has made very little music, and I wonder where he is today. I hope he will come back, because he has a very good flow and his speciality is to make references to a lot of movies, shows, animes, video games etc. The music I'm going to show is practically all he's released (in video):Fichu - Impala 1967 - Oiseaux - Jason Bourne - Fable 
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Lord Esperanza - Lord can make calm and soft music,  serious music with very good lyrics, and music with very strong basses and lots of punchlines. So I will try to vary the choices:L'insolence des Elus - Et Alors - Noir - L'enfant Du Siècle - Killcam - Silver - 23 Carats
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And then here are some more musics:Deux Minutes - Forchetta - Bête et méchant - Dans Le Sang - Rock With You - Dalida
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Tell me what you liked Wink smile

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To be honest, rap is one of the very few musical genres I positively hate, but I can still recognize talent in some singers Regular smile

If you're interested in meaningful lyrics you could look into French rap from the South.
One of the most famous early group of the 90's, I.A.M. was from Marseille.
Currently there is Kenny Arkana, also from Marseille, with pretty decent lyrics.
These guys rather tackle societal issues and politics, in a realistic way, instead of aping US gangstas.
That means less ego trips, misogyny, cult of money and rants about urban warfare or drug trafficking Regular smile

LoupSolo
<a href="/bn/translator/kwamegh" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1402305">kwameGH</a>
যোগদান: 13.11.2018

Vald, I only got to hear of him at LT. He seems okay but I don't really like his style. Orelsan's lyrics are dope but his flow, not quite.
Actually I think Bigflo and Oli's lyrics are simple to you is because you listen to a lot of rap. I'll give them a five star in terms of decency (less vulgarity) and lyrics that talk about life in general. And they seem to be too preoccupied with overly fast rap at times, haha.
I'll be checking out the songs of the other rappers you proposed. Thanks

Senior Member M.
<a href="/bn/translator/l%C3%A9opold-drahcuob" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1415741">Léopold Drahcuob</a>
যোগদান: 17.03.2019

To revive a bit this subject, I think you could add Columbine, or even Fauve to the french rapper's list.
There also is Romeo Elvis, or Lomepal (not the last album tho).
Dooz Kawa comes from my hometown and is insanely good by the way.

LoupSolo
<a href="/bn/translator/kwamegh" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1402305">kwameGH</a>
যোগদান: 13.11.2018

These rappers you've suggested, are they up to the level of Karim Fall (Lefa)? Cos Lefa is my gold standard of French rap.
And am I right in saying that he is an underrated rapper?

Senior Member M.
<a href="/bn/translator/l%C3%A9opold-drahcuob" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1415741">Léopold Drahcuob</a>
যোগদান: 17.03.2019

Well, to be honest I don't particularly listen to french rap (I just know them because I live in France and I listen casually to them), but Lefa sure is another style of rap.
Maybe you could try Disiz la Peste, Gringe, PNL, Les Casseurs Flowters...

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<a href="/bn/translator/chri5123" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1417812">Chri5123</a>
যোগদান: 07.04.2019

What are our thoughts on Django? He hasn't released much music recently but some of his lines are filled with pop culture references and his fast flows are second to none

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<a href="/bn/translator/floppylou" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1336490">Floppylou</a>
যোগদান: 29.04.2017

That's not really my kind of music, but I'm pretty in love with "Nique les clônes" from Nekfeu (https://lyricstranslate.com/en/nekfeu-nique-les-clones-pt-ii-lyrics.html) and especially his kind of writing, using stylistic devices like alliterations :
"Le regard des gens t'amènera devant le mirage du miroir
Mais, moi, j'ai la rage, ma vision du Rap, elle est rare
Tant qu'un misérable s'endormira dans la rame
Pendant que le rat se réchauffera sur les rails"

LoupSolo
<a href="/bn/translator/kwamegh" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1402305">kwameGH</a>
যোগদান: 13.11.2018
Floppylou wrote:

That's not really my kind of music, but I'm pretty in love with "Nique les clônes" from Nekfeu (https://lyricstranslate.com/en/nekfeu-nique-les-clones-pt-ii-lyrics.html) and especially his kind of writing, using stylistic devices like alliterations :
"Le regard des gens t'amènera devant le mirage du miroir
Mais, moi, j'ai la rage, ma vision du Rap, elle est rare
Tant qu'un misérable s'endormira dans la rame
Pendant que le rat se réchauffera sur les rails"

Nekfeu is one of my favorites. Wordplay, flow, rhyme schemes... he's just dope. Tracks like "ma dope", "égérie" and "princess" say it all.
Unfortunately when I search the best rappers in France, many sites churn out unknown /underground rappers, whose rap are nothing special.

LoupSolo
<a href="/bn/translator/kwamegh" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1402305">kwameGH</a>
যোগদান: 13.11.2018
Chri5123 schrieb:

What are our thoughts on Django? He hasn't released much music recently but some of his lines are filled with pop culture references and his fast flows are second to none

I've not actually listened to him yet. He's been suggested by Jethro Paris.

Novice
<a href="/bn/translator/chri5123" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1417812">Chri5123</a>
যোগদান: 07.04.2019

Who has listened to Orelsan's recent albums? I

Editor Slim Shady
<a href="/bn/translator/jethro-paris" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1225135">Jethro Paris</a>
যোগদান: 05.11.2014

I did!

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<a href="/bn/translator/aydajonas" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1276022">ayda.jonas</a>
যোগদান: 02.02.2016

Hey, there is a rapper called '' Lomepal '' . He is amazing, you should listen '' Yeux Disent - 1000°C - Trop Beau ''
And Nekfeu has a song with him called '' A la trappe ''. If you like Nekfeu, I believe you'll like this, too. Regular smile

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<a href="/bn/translator/farha-nrk" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1184790">Farha NRK</a>
যোগদান: 17.08.2013

Some very popular rappers who haven't been listed yet and that deserve to be checked out:

Ninho: Along with PNL's "Deux Frères" and Nekfeu's "Les Etoiles Vagabondes", his album "Destin" has been one of the most successful this year in France. Check out "Putana" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGWatM0llSA) or "Goutte d'Eau" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uLp-tejcSo). He's viewed as one of this latest generation of rapper's most talented and is frequently featured on other French rappers' albums.

Niska: His latest album "Mr. Sal" just dropped and includes the single "Du lundi au lundi" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ-IdYACtlI) and the -in my honest opinion- very interesting featuring with Ninho, "Méchant" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c276Vstgwnw). Most people know him for the song "Réseaux" which has been a MASSIVE hit in France in 2017 and was a prime example of French trap. He's also been featured on various rappers projects among which, this year, Booba ("Médicament"), Shay ("Liquide") or Koba La D ("RR 9.1").

Koba La D: A very recognizable voice in French rap right now, he's been popularized with the song "Train de vie" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUy2KcZpYMc). His latest album "L'Affranchi" features Ninho, Niska and Maes (Booba's protégé... for now lol). Much like Niska, Koba is trap-oriented.

Fianso: I can't help but see him as one of French rap's uncles because of his implication in the scene lol. He's been in the game for quite a long time but found success with the -insanely good, again, my opinion- mixtape "#JeSuisPasséChezSo" in 2017. If you like gangsta rap, then you can't miss Fianso. He knows how to kick and he kicks hard as you can hear in songs like the infamous "Toka" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZBU7BWQsZs) or featurings like "Loup-garou" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rter-Np-Td0) with Maître Gims (who very much still got it as a rapper) or more recently "Empire" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aUl_OYW3nM) with Kaaris (which I still can't get over). The last song is present on the ambitious project "93 Empire" which unites rappers from Seine Saint-Denis (code: 93) among which the legendary Suprême NTM or even Vald, who has been listed here. As I said, he's pretty much old school with his brutal style of rapping but he blends well with other styles as well (see Heuss L'Enfoiré's "Khapta" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-gmIG41dGA on which he's featured on. Massive hit.)

SCH: Personally my favorite French rapper because of how diversified he is. He found success in 2015 with the (now regarded as a French rap classic) A7 mixtape. It's difficult to chose songs from that project because a lot of the popular songs on it are very different from eachother but try:
"Champs-Elysees", the song that popularized him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk13QMMHksc (I'm really not good at classifying songs and I sure don't know how to classify this one lmao. In France we call that a "zumba": it's definitely rap, but it's poppy and your mother could enjoy it... if she didn't focus too hard on the crude lyrics that is lol.)
"A7", a classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=httfJoffl9E (I'd say gangsta rap ?)
"Liquide", an iconic featuring with Lacrim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkN1son2i_c (again, I'd say gangsta rap ?)
His latest album "JVLIVS" is extremely good and is worth a listen in its entirety and more recently he released a very good summer hit, "Haut-Standing" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9J9WcaI7b0).

It's safe to say that rap is the most popular genre in France and in my opinion, it's up there with the OG American scene in terms of richness.Those are only a few of the most popular rappers right now and I missed lots of them because the scene is veeeery diverse and basically, there's something for every taste. I'd also add that some of the artists that have been listed I wouldn't consider rappers or a fair representation of the French scene but I won't elaborate because I don't want to be controversial and also, my opinion on the subject might be biased lol... but yeah, that's that on that. Enjoy!

Editor Slim Shady
<a href="/bn/translator/jethro-paris" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1225135">Jethro Paris</a>
যোগদান: 05.11.2014

Wow Farha, that's such a nice long and detailed message! It's like the work of your translations that I've been able to see with PNL Regular smile Don't worry you can say your opinion about French rappers you like or dislike, we all have our own tastes and own reasons, the only thing important is to not judge other peoples' tastes! I'm pretty sure when you say "some of the artists that have been listed I wouldn't consider rappers or a fair representation of the French scene" you're talking about Lorenzo (mainly at least). Well, Lorenzo is more a troll rather than a rapper, that's for sure. But well, he trolls rapping, and do it pretty nicely. Nice enough for some peoples to take him seriously at least lmao. But well, as you said, French rap is really diverse and that makes it a strength. I guess Lorenzo is to France what iLoveMakonnen is to USA haha. Personally, I think Ninho is a really nice rapper, I can't add anything more. Fianso is so hardcore, I really like his work and I like how he have a great sense of humor. I used to dislike SCH for a while but recently I noticed he is pretty nice so I planned to listen more of his songs. But as for Niska and Koba LaD, I can't say the same. They actually both are in my top 3 of worst French rappers haha. Niska used to be fire to me, till he release Commando. I mean "La chatte de la petite est sale, son lit sent le poisson salé (pue du cul)" "j'ai vu ses lolos", etc, what kind of line is this lmao. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyaJrsiA_J0 & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-Ylj6ZUmtE This is the Niska I used to like! I just hope his new album will be more like this haha. And as for Koba LaD well... I don't have to say anything more, the song you've linked is enough haha ^^ Very poor and easy rhymes, a very bad French, a text that has no originality and no meaning: "J'me rappelle j'avais rien" and 10 seconds later "J'avais toujours c'qu'il faut" lmao! I call him the French Lil Pump ^^ Anyway, it's just my own opinion though! Thanks a lot again for your message, it's still nice to see other peoples loving French rap Regular smile

Editor Slim Shady
<a href="/bn/translator/jethro-paris" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1225135">Jethro Paris</a>
যোগদান: 05.11.2014

(By the way, Lefa though, is my latest revelation in French Rap right now. I suggest anyone who likes French rap to listen to his songs, especially the recent ones. The more time goes by, the better he get.)

LoupSolo
<a href="/bn/translator/kwamegh" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1402305">kwameGH</a>
যোগদান: 13.11.2018

Yeesss!! Haha, Editor Slim Shady.
What took you so long?

To me he's the best French rapper, and very underrated because he doesn't like much publicity. The only one who matches him for me, is Nekfeu, though they have very different styles.

In terms of technique (arrangement of words to flow with the beat), many of the rappers mentioned above do not impress much. And that's why French rap is not yet up to the standard of American rap i.m.o. No offense to other lovers French rap.

Karim Fall!

LoupSolo
<a href="/bn/translator/kwamegh" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1402305">kwameGH</a>
যোগদান: 13.11.2018

I discovered another guy called Népal on Nekfeu's track "Esquimaux". He's dope too.
And he apparently has a host of other identities.

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