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Plagiarism or sincere form of flattery - you be the judge

Von BlackSea4ever am 12 Okt 2019 erstellt | weitere Künstler: sandring, vevvev, Equirythmystica
Plagiarism or sincere form of flattery - you be the judge

To be added to the collection, please submit links to two songs and references to discern the original from the plagiarized...oops, sincerely flattered. This collection was borne of the first entry - Leonard Cohen's Dance me to the End of Love. Then, my own experience with one of Dylan's songs... Turns out he flattered a lot which is also a gift when done well. I don't judge - just demonstrate. I am of the mind that music should be available to all, musicians should be paid, and videos should never be blocked. But that's just me and few of you.

Credits:
Artwork: https://www.perspective-collective.com/stop-plagiarism/
1st comment lists sources used on the respected items

Remarkably similar sounding song to Dance me to the end of love.
Neatly demonstrated in

I think it's the most sincere form of flattery - what say you?
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In 2010, Otis Rush's "All Your Love (I Miss Loving)" was inducted into the Blues Foundation Hall of Fame, which noted that Rush's song "was the obvious inspiration for Bob Dylan's recent track "Beyond Here Lies Nothin'"".[4] In various interviews, Peter Green acknowledged being influenced by "All Your Love"' when he wrote the rock classic "Black Magic Woman",[5] that became a major hit for Santana. According to Carlos Santana, "If you take the words from 'Black Magic Woman' and just leave the rhythm, it's 'All Your Love'—it's Otis Rush".[6]
From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Your_Love_(I_Miss_Loving)

John Lennon once said you could replace the name rock ‘n’ roll with Chuck Berry and call it a day. The respect was mutual. Berry, who was one of rock’s greatest songwriters, loved The Beatles and said “Yesterday” was the one song he wished he’d written.

Original.

Ripoff...of the you can't catch me.

"Beatles’ longstanding plagiarism of Berry’s words and music—a series of infractions that resulted in a trio of unmistakable rock classics. Whether it takes the form of such high-octane cover versions as “Roll Over Beethoven” and “Rock and Roll music” or the musical borrowings inherent in “I Saw Her Standing There,” “Back in the USSR,” and “Come Together,” the Beatles’ debt to Berry is writ large across their unparalleled career."
From https://www.huffpost.com/entry/everything-fab-four-the-beatles-as-plagia...

Coldplay scored their first No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 2008 with "Viva la Vida," attracting the attention of guitarist Joe Satriani, who claimed it copied parts of his 2004 instrumental track "If I Could Fly." The band called it a coincidence but settled out of court with him in 2009.

I say an extremely happy coincidence...

Hmm. Blurred for sure. Got to give it up...

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but sometimes, you have to pay for it...

Brazilian musician Jorge Ben Jor alleged that Rod Stewart's 1979 No. 1 hit "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?" plagiarized portions of his song "Taj Mahal." The two settled out of court, and in his 2012 autobiography, Stewart admitted to "unconscious plagiarism."

Rip off to the tune of 587k to The Shiffon's He is so fine

Rip off Ronald Selle's Let it end

But,
Nearly six years after the Bee Gees' "How Deep Is Your Love" topped the Hot 100 in late 1977, a songwriter named Ronald Selle alleged that their hit stole from his 1975 demo "Let It End." While a jury initially found in favor of Selle, the judge permitted the Bee Gees a judgment notwithstanding the verdict and ruled in their favor. An appeal to a higher court also found in favor of the Bee Gees.

Ripoff Under Pressure...
Vanilla Ice rode a funky bass line to No. 1 on the Hot 100 in 1990, giving hip-hop its first-ever No. 1 hit on that chart. Unfortunately for him, plenty of listeners pointed out the song's similarity to the 1981 song "Under Pressure" by David Bowie and Queen. While Vanilla Ice denied the similarity at first, he later relented and decided to pay both parties royalties in order to avoid a court battle.

Original
When Nirvana came to Argentina in 1992, the Argentinian band "Los Brujos" was picked as the opening band. The band was known by their song "Kanishka"

Contributed by [@Diazepan Medina]

Übersetzungen:  Englisch

Ripoff...
The legend says Kurt was impressed by the riff and asked them if they could give him a CD. A year after, with a similar riff Kurt wrote "Very Ape"

Übersetzungen:  Serbisch Griechisch

In January 2018, Australian country music star Jasmine Rae filed a lawsuit against Ed Sheeran. Rae claimed that Sheeran’s song “The Rest of Our Life,” which he wrote for Tim McGraw and Faith Hill, was “almost note for note copy” of her song “When I Found You.” The suit is still ongoing.

Übersetzungen:  Bengalisch Italienisch

Original.
Well, upon further review thanks to [@Diazepan Medina], I've learned that
"Lambada" is an unauthorized version in portuguese of "Llorando se fue" by Los Kjarkas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llorando_se_fue
You can find the song and it's translations at:
https://lyricstranslate.com/es/Los-Kjarkas-Llorando-se-fue-lyrics.html

Good news - we get to enjoy good songs. Although, I'm not a fan of jlo's version.

"Well, this is tricky. It’s quite clear that J.Lo’s “On the Floor” sounds similar to the song “Lambada” by French pop group Kaoma. But honestly, the song has been covered so many times (17 or so, by our count) that it’s hard to distinguish what got the green light and what didn’t. However, “On the Floor” has also been accused of borrowing from Hispanic singer Kat DeLuna’s 2010 single “Party O’Clock” and Romanian musician Edward Maya’s 2009 club hit “Stereo Love.”"

"Little has been made of this, as far as we can tell, but it’s impossible (for us, at least) to listen to James Blunt’s 2013 track “Heart to Heart” without hearing another song: Five for Fighting’s 2003 single “100 Years.” Although Blunt may have only sampled the melody and riff, it’s such a distinctive sound that it casts a pall over “Heart to Heart” that is difficult to overlook. No lawsuit for this one."

Original.

Contributed by [@vevvev] who left me alone to do the research. Thanks, Cheater. 😵

Robert Plant had certainly muddied the waters...

The following excerpts are from
https://www.aaronkrerowicz.com/pop-music-blog/inspiration-or-plagiarism-...
Willie Dixon, probably the foremost blues composer of the mid-20th Century, penned a song titled 'You Need Love', which he gave to Muddy Waters to record in 1962.
Seven years later, that song's lyrics would be the inspiration for Led Zeppelin's 'Whole Lotta Love'.
'Whole Lotta Love' is musically independent from 'You Need Love'. There are superficial musical similarities and a strong similarity in character (they're both blues songs), but nowhere near the resemblance of the lyrics.

Robert Plant's vocals are worth mentioning. Just as he borrowed the lyrics from Muddy Waters, so too he borrows the vocal style of Steve Marriott, lead singer of The Small Faces, who released their own version of the song, 'You Need Loving', in 1966.

Original.
This song became famous when Santana made its cover. I love the original.

I also love Santana...

Contributed by [@vevvev]

This is not plagiarism, but sincere form of flattery because Russian songwriter credited Cale for the music.

Kommentare
BlackSea4everBlackSea4ever    So, 13/10/2019 - 01:38

[@vevvev], [@Equirythmystica] shall we split the work so we don't overlap?
Dylan - Zhenya
Beatles - Andrew
Unless you just want to wing it?

[@sandring] N, please share any ideas you might have had by just names - it does take some effort to get pairs into the collection. I know, ZV will laugh at me.

[@brat] please contribute if you have the inkling

BratBrat    So, 13/10/2019 - 11:38

В эпоху постмодернизма очень сложно ни у кого не украсть...
Если копать мелодии глубоко, - докопаешься как минимум до Вивальди...

BlackSea4everBlackSea4ever    So, 13/10/2019 - 14:15

Yes, but this is not meant to be the judge and jury. It's meant for some fun. For example, someone I know who loves Beatles far more than any man should, was shocked they did it. I scour for the funnies remarks that are plain fun. I'm quite sorry you didn't like it. I guess I'm losing my touch along with sleep. 🤔

silencedsilenced    So, 13/10/2019 - 02:09

I don't see any similarities here. Neither lyrics nor music sound alike. What is supposed to be copied?

BlackSea4everBlackSea4ever    So, 13/10/2019 - 02:18

See, just because someone says something on Internet, it doesn't make it so - I didn't add it to the collection.
As I lack musicality, I need references for the entries.

BlackSea4everBlackSea4ever    So, 13/10/2019 - 02:20

any chance you got references, Diaz. I trust you as I trust Pierre, I just don't possess the ability to judge.
Thank you.

BratBrat    So, 13/10/2019 - 12:58

Мелодия и слова этой песни полностью заимствованы Шевчуком у покойного Дюши Романова. Песня эта называется Ignatius Song и входит в последний альбом ''Трилистника'' ''Электрическая осада'' (1999). https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5cd10c4ea8ac8300b3499257/sravnivaem-pesni...

Так что всех собак вешайте на покойного Дюшу - ему теперь уже наплевать...

vevvevvevvev    So, 13/10/2019 - 13:02

Это в сети пишут. Мне тоже в припеве Дилана расслышать не особо удается...

vevvevvevvev    So, 13/10/2019 - 09:04

«Девочка летом» — песня рок-группы «Калинов Мост» в жанре блюз-рок, первоначально вышедшая на их дебютном альбоме 1987 года. Песня была написана Дмитрием Ревякиным в мае 1986 года в Новосибирске. В качестве музыкальной основы была взята песня «Sensitive Kind» американского блюзового музыканта Джей-Джей Кейла. Слова написаны Дмитрием Ревякиным.

Sophia_Sophia_    So, 13/10/2019 - 11:59

Добавила видео туда. Я "в прошлой жизни" добавила некоторое количество песен науменко, не потрудившись добавить видеолинки. Собираюсь исправить.

BlackSea4everBlackSea4ever    So, 13/10/2019 - 05:37

zhen, you know, you are killing me - it took you 20 min - probably doing few translations in between?

vevvevvevvev    So, 13/10/2019 - 05:51

Не забывайте, Вы - МУЗА Regular smile

BlackSea4everBlackSea4ever    So, 13/10/2019 - 07:02

3am. It took me 1.5 hours to add 2 entries... Lol/cry. I have to put away iPad because I listen to music and look for references, and it's more difficult to concentrate without any sleep. Thanks. I'll be baackk...

silencedsilenced    So, 13/10/2019 - 09:28

This is well documented. These ill-mannered brats stormed the charts by brazenly stealing samples of this song and copying the main theme despite the author's opposition and without giving any credit. The author threatened to go to court but eventually dropped charges.

sandringsandring    Mo, 14/10/2019 - 06:35

Dea, are you sure that was Your original idea? I was quite surprised to read that.

BlackSea4everBlackSea4ever    Mo, 14/10/2019 - 06:43

I had the idea about it when I read about lavanda, but you and I discussed it as I mentioned to the guys and said I would need your agreement to start it again. I had 24 song pairs and since I deleted that collection, I started this one anew. Please add any ideas you can - I made you the collaborator from the start.
Thanks.
Genius minds think alike.