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[SOLVED] What has been going on throughout the whole time when the users Лазар Алабић, Корисничко име, and I were using this website

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1) I have now just decided to do something that I've never done before and that is to start a forum thread because there have been a few misunderstandings in the comments I'd posted before, so I was just wondering if maybe I could clarify all that. I'm going to tell you the story of what has been going on throughout the whole time when the users Лазар Алабић (Lazar Alabić from Serbian Cyrillic to Serbian Latin), Корисничко име, and I were using this website. Also, this message text will be really long, so I will put 5 spaces between each different things I want to say so it would be as if I posted several short message texts.

2) I can't reply to their comments where they said that in those pages anymore because I kept talking too much and they disabled me to post comments, but that's only because they kept talking to me and I kept trying to answer to all of them, and I think they should enable that again. Hopefully you will understand everything once you read this message text and you will stop constantly talking to me about it.

3) On April 22, 2020, Lazar first started using this website and the first content he added was the Serbian translation of the song "Dame tu Cosita" by El Chombo and Cutty Ranks. Here is the link of that: https://lyricstranslate.com/en/dame-tu-cosita-%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%98-%D0%BC%...
His mother saw that he was doing that on his phone because everything we do on our computers happen in them, too, but he didn't know that.

4) On July 29, 2020, he added the song "Going Broke (Antonio Brown Diss Track)" by Logan Paul and he started using this website ever since. Here is the link of that: https://lyricstranslate.com/en/logan-paul-going-broke-antonio-brown-diss...
He once got banned from the chatrooms which was removed a while ago because there are some bad things he used to do there and I would like to tell you that, but I can't because it's a long story, and he said he will never do them again. Then, in December of 2020, he wanted to add instrumentals even though only songs with real words need to exist because he wanted all types of songs to exist here, so then he was banned until on January 23, 2021.

5) In February of 2021, he realized that he got banned again forever because he decided to say something that has nothing to do with one forum, and that is that he thinks it's really annoying that we can post comments here because the only website where we are supposed to be able to do that is YouTube, but we can also say something that's unrelated to the videos there.

6) Lazar was going to see if his brother Luka could help him use this website again and he didn't want to tell him that he got banned because then he wouldn't be able to help him, but then he went to Gmail to see the messages that you sent him and then he realized Lazar got banned and couldn't help him. I would like to send you a link to that, but I can't because I wrote this message text on my phone instead of computer and there is no URL for that page, and also only I can go there because I'm logged in there.

7) Also, he was once going to send you a message that he really wants to use this site again, but he accidentally wrote his name in Serbian Latin instead of Serbian Cyrillic and created another account and then someone told him that multiple accounts are not allowed. Here is the link of that Lazar Alabić user which he doesn't need and needs to be deleted: https://lyricstranslate.com/en/translator/lazar-alabi%C4%87

8) On June 17, 2021, Корисничко име added the songs that Lazar was supposed to add and couldn't because he got banned, but then one user told him that he was supposed to reformat the lyrics of them or they will get unpublished, and he didn't want to do that because we are supposed to format the lyrics of songs any way we want, and the way they and I do that is write parts of lyrics that have words that rhyme in each row and put a comma after the first word that rhymes with the other.

9) Then, 3 days later on June 20, 2021, I went to one place, I went to Lyrics Translations on my phone and I clicked on Корисничко име, but then the login page showed up to me which happens every time we try to search a banned user while not logged in, and it will be written to us "Access denied -You are not authorized to access this page" if we do it while logged in. I also tried to search him on the search bar, but then I saw he didn't show up, so then I realized he got banned, too.

10) Then, 3 days ago on January 22, 2022, I created a new account on Google and I was just wondering if maybe I could try to use it to join the community and it actually somehow successfully worked. I was going to add all the songs that Lazar and Корисничко име were supposed to add and couldn't because they got banned, but then some users doubted that I was actually them because I act just like them and Lazar just created another account so he can use it instead because his other two got banned, and I'm trying to prove to them that I'm actually not because I know that multiple accounts are not allowed and they think he should be banned forever. Also, you may be wondering how I know so much about him if I'm not him, so that's only because he is just some person that I know in real life and being my close friend.

11) Also, they are going to reformat the lyrics of the songs I added because I format them the same way as Lazar and Корисничко име, but I think we can also format them like that. They also reformatted the lyrics of some of the songs added by Lazar, but not all of them, and they also unpublished some of them added by Корисничко име and that is no reason.

12) I'm now about to tell you something that I've never thought I could say before, but now I think I need to: Even if I was Lazar and he did create another account so he can use it instead because his other ones got banned, I would only do that because I really like adding new content and I promised I will never do any of the few bad things again like I used to, so you don't need to ban me again unless I proved that I'm not doing them anymore, which I did. Since multiple accounts are not allowed, I don't have them anymore because my other two accounts got banned, so you don't have to unban them anymore because now I can only use this one.

13) I just decided to edit this message text because I need to tell you another thing about this. I just realized that I wasn't meant to add this forum after all because not only the users whom I was supposed to tell this can see it but all of them, but the only reason I decided to add it in the first place is because I thought I was meant to. There has to be a way for me to delete it, but I probably can't and the mods can't unpublish it either, and I can't post new comments here because Juan closed it and disabled me to do so. No offense, but I think he is such a jerk, I also said this in the collection "Artists I know whose names start with Lil" I added, but I don't think he'll see it now either even if they can see it anyhow.

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Excuse me, but if you have a disagreement or misunderstanding with certain users then could you please be so kind and try to solve them in private? I personally don't see the reason why others should be dragged into this situation.

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Sadly, this was a very public disagreement that happened over the comments. I've been watching this whole thing unfold for the past couple of days- it's hard not to when you notice the same name over and over again in the site activity tab. I can't imagine how much of a headache this is for the mods... This user already admitted to being Lazar in this comment thread: https://lyricstranslate.com/en/randolph-slow-motion-lyrics.html-0#commen... So I really don't see why he felt the need to make this post.

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Sorry, it's just that I have never started a forum thread before and I don't really actually exactly know how to use that. I only wanted to tell some users the story of what has been happening during the entire time when I was using this website because I want to clarify all that and I can't reply to the comments that they sent to me in some pages because they disabled me to do that. I probably wasn't supposed to do this because other users don't need to see this forum and it doesn't need to be too public, so I will probably have to delete it sometime.

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I didn't know you saw the pages where I was talking about the same things because I normally don't look at the site activity tab. I didn't really mean to make the other users talk too hard to me about that and I only admitted that I was actually Lazar slightly after that, so I thought that if I start this forum thread they would actually understand everything I tried to clarify. I never expected there to be so many other users who will now talk to me here because I didn't know this wasn't that private.

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returnofthejewdi wrote:

Sadly, this was a very public disagreement that happened over the comments. I've been watching this whole thing unfold for the past couple of days- it's hard not to when you notice the same name over and over again in the site activity tab. I can't imagine how much of a headache this is for the mods... This user already admitted to being Lazar in this comment thread: https://lyricstranslate.com/en/randolph-slow-motion-lyrics.html-0#commen... So I really don't see why he felt the need to make this post.

Maybe he wanted to make this argument even more public?

Anyway, public or not public, he shouldn't try to drag more people into this misunderstanding.

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Sorry, it's just that I have never started a forum thread before and I don't really actually exactly know how to use that. I only wanted to tell some users the story of what has been happening during the entire time when I was using this website because I want to clarify all that and I can't reply to the comments that they sent to me in some pages because they disabled me to do that. I probably wasn't supposed to do this because other users don't need to see this forum and it doesn't need to be too public, so I will probably have to delete it sometime.

Since your misunderstanding is public enough, then I'm sure that people will find out the story about it themselves if they'll wish to be involved in this misunderstanding. This forum topic you created was completely unnecessary.

Now I'm kindly asking you to refrain from spamming forum and comments sections any further.

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Okay, I didn't mean to make everyone find this forum or make this story even more public, so I guess I shall delete it now after you see this comment. How do I delete it?

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After made long exhalations, you made me believe in yoga and as a professional boxer that's weird, Teeth smile I wanna say this forum topic you created was completely unnecessary and your intention was in order to drag others into this situation. On Saturday you got enough attention, but you weren't happy. Just on that day, you have said the name Lazar 30 times and made me shout: Almighty God I have read, today, the name Lazar 30 times.. Give me patience! Sunday, Monday and today, you again and again always said the same. I have read the name Lazar 100 times and the situation is disturbing. We know from the very beginning that you are Lazar. This is a translation site and not a circus. You though we were fool and no dear we are not. We could pretend we don't know who you were, but we do. It's easy as: I am Lazar, I want to be here and post translations or transliterations or comments in the forum. Now, you involved your brother Luka? I don't mind if Luka could help him or couldn't. I don't mind at all. On your first comment you didn't admit you are Lazar. You were keep saying Lazar called his brother Luka and other things. Lazar, Корисничко име and you are the same person and I always said it. I advise you a lot of times; forget all of this and get focussed on made translations or transcriptions. You are surprised that we were not so kind? What did you expect from us after all this nonsensical comments? I didn't become ironic unless someone think I am fool. With your attitude is like we won't reach the end of this "mess". We could call our story: “Never ending story“ like the movie. I repeat it: Forget all of this and focus on make translations and add songs

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I already knew that I told you the same story about Lazar several times, but now I decided to do it again by starting a forum thread because I thought I could do that, but now I realized I wasn't supposed to do this or say my brother Luka. Is there not a way for me to delete this?

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You just didn't mention the reasons why all of your previous accounts were banned. Several Mods, me included, dealt with them, you never seemed to understand what we were talking about. You were originally banned from the chatrooms due to flooding/spamming (as a result of several users reporting, it was not a Mod observing that). You always went along with *I didn't know I wasn't supposed to do that, but I did that because I thought other people would like, but those people said I was doing something bad* over and over.

You contradict yourself. You say you are not doing the same stuff you did, but at the same time you still add lyrics incorrectly (claiming you don't want to do as everyone does). As a result of that, all/most pages added by you have been edited and then locked by staff members. I disabled comments in all of those that I edited because I feel it is useless to talk as you don't want to cooperate (you openly stated that in a comment elsewhere). With that considered I say again that we do not have any solid base to give you another chance.

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Excuse me, but if you have a disagreement or misunderstanding with certain users then could you please be so kind and try to solve them in private? I personally don't see the reason why others should be dragged into this situation.

No, no. Allow me to disagree. They brought it to public, then they'll have their discussion it in public.

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Now I'm kindly asking you to refrain from spamming forum and comments sections any further.

This is why I have disabled comments in all pages I've edited. I showed them why content was edited, he says why he doesn't do that, and we go around like that for hours and hours. It's not something I like doing, but our patience has limits.

Lazar, if you want to stay in the community, you have to follow the rules. Violating them like you've been doing in the last days does not add to you and does not count to your favor. We knew it was you from your first comment, we have ways to notice users.

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The problem here was writting like if you were again other guy. If you want to come here and get something off your chest ok go ahead. I said we are a translation site, but if you need to just maintain conversations, remember use PM, it's ok. As I said https://lyricstranslate.com/en/randolph-slow-motion-lyrics.html-0#commen... we could talk in any Balkan language but as adults. If you want, despite of being unnecessary, to explain to me all the things that occured to you when you tried to log in or if you want to tell me something about Luka or other stuffs it's ok. Remember I am not a psychologist and some problems about joining LT I could not solve. Mods like Juan or others will be glad to help you but it must exist reciprocity. You have to be honest; don't try to fool people or involve everyone on LT. If you said "Hello I am Lazar, I know I didn't act well in the past and I come here because I want to change you will be very welcome. But, you opened a forum section and again you have talked as if you were not Lazar. And then 4 comments after I found: I am Lazar... Luka is your brother as I have so introduce him as your brother and not the brother of other guy. Stop those games, be transparent dear and everything would be great for you here. Here we are for fun, we aren't paid for our work, so come here, be relaxed and enjoy your stay

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Okay, I already clarified to you what has been going on when I've been using this website and now I realized that I wasn't supposed to create this forum in the first place, so now you need to help me delete it. I knew you were going to see this forum and then reply to me that I did something wrong about it, so I sure hope that if I reply to you now you will stop being mad at me and we can stop talking about this.

I already know that you knew I was Lazar when I posted a first comment about it, but I already told you that the only reason I didn't want you to know that I was actually Lazar is because I violated only some rules, like adding instrumentals instead of songs with real words and telling you something that's unrelated to one forum, and you think I need to be banned forever, so then I had to create another account to use it to add new songs and you don't have to ban me again because now I'm following rules.

I already know that I got banned from the chatrooms because I kept spamming, but there are also a few more bad things I did which I didn't want to say because there are too many. The only reason I got banned from using my original account is because I broke those other rules, not because I format the lyrics of songs wrongly. That's not against the rules, we can do that any way we want, so I still don't understand why you only reformatted the lyrics of some of the songs I added with my Lazar account and not all of them, and why you unpublished some songs I added with my Корисничко име account.

I already know you were going to edit the songs I added to reformat the lyrics of them and you may lock me from editing it, but you didn't have to disable me to post comments in those pages because I wasn't going to say anything wrong about it. Also, I'm probably spamming right now that I'm trying to say all this to make you understand, just like in the chatrooms which I wasn't supposed to do either and I know that now.

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Okay, I did actually already admit that I'm actually Lazar, I just thought I could've said that I wasn't him again when I made this forum because I was going to say that I was Lazar afterwards. I didn't want you to know that I was actually Lazar when I first joined the community because I didn't know I should've, I thought you would ban me again because I used to violate the rules with my old Lazar account and now I stopped and you think I should be banned forever, but I actually don't because I'm not breaking the rules anymore, I just created another account even if I know that multiple accounts are not allowed because I need to use it to add new content, and I don't even have more accounts anymore because they got banned. The first thing I tried to do to stop you from talking to me about this is to clarify everything which I did now, and the second thing is that I created this forum because I thought I was supposed to do that, but now you told me that I wasn't and I was supposed to send you a PM and I didn't know that, so now you need to help me get rid of it.

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The problem is not the creation of that topic, it is:

1- You didn't say what your really name was
2- You just didn't mention the reasons why you were banned
3- You, when a mod reveal your identity and when you know that we have catched you still mantained that you weren't Lazar
4- I told you stop doing this and you ignored my advices
5- You didn't stop`contradict yourself
6- You created a forum topic and you still mantain the lie of your identity and moreover you tried to involve more people
7- Keep in mind that there are a lot of ways of discover your identity unless you are from CIA
8- You still add lyrics incorrectly and said that Lazar did this or that
9- We could have a conversation with you because you don't want to cooperate
10- From Saturday until now, hope things will change, you still deny the truth; Lazar is you

If you want to stay in the community, you have to follow the rules as everyone have to do and stop lying please. Stop laying and wehn a mod gives you an "order" follow it. If they are mistaken, they are humans, ok no problem politely tell it to them

That's all folks!

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I already told you the same things over and over again because you keep telling me the same things and you still don't understand me, so I sure hope you will stop constantly talking to me once I tell you this, and the problem is not only the fact that I kept trying to clarify you this, but also that I created this topic before I realized I wasn't meant to and now you have to help me delete it. Some of this stuff you just told me aren't even the real problems.

1- I didn't know that you knew I was Lazar in the first place just because I use the same writing style and format the lyrics of songs the same way. The reason I didn't want to say that I was Lazar at first is because I thought you would ban me again because I used to violate the rules before I got banned from my original account and you think I should be banned forever, but then I realized that I didn't need to after all and now I can say that I am Lazar, and I'm not doing that anymore, I just didn't say that at first when I made this forum and then I did. I only created another account so I can use it instead to add new songs, and I also know that multiple accounts are not allowed, but I don't have them anymore because I got banned from using my other two.

2- The way I format the lyrics of songs is not against the rules, we can do it any way we want, and the way I do that is write lyrics that have words that rhyme in each row and put a comma after the first word that rhymes with the other. I don't have to reformat the lyrics of the songs I added, but the staff members can if you really need to, and they don't need to disable me to post comments in those pages. They didn't reformat the lyrics of some songs that I added with my Lazar account, only some of them, and they unpublished some songs I added with my Корисничко име account.

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I Really Like Using This Website wrote:

2- The way I format the lyrics of songs is not against the rules, we can do it any way we want, and the way I do that is write lyrics that have words that rhyme in each row and put a comma after the first word that rhymes with the other. I don't have to reformat the lyrics of the songs I added, but the staff members can if you really need to, and they don't need to disable me to post comments in those pages. They didn't reformat the lyrics of some songs that I added with my Lazar account, only some of them, and they unpublished some songs I added with my Корисничко име account.

I showed you the explicit chapter of the rules that says how lyrics must be arranged, it's not like *we can do it any way we want* and that is not open for discussion. You add wrong lyrics, they'll be edited, editing will be disabled, period.

Yes, you don't have to reformat, but if the lyrics are reported or if a staff member thinks it's needed, they are allowed to edit and they will.

Here I am again telling you the same thing for like the 10th time.

Lazar, this is enough proof for everyone to see that you are not willing to follow the rules. Life is made of choices. You make them, and are willing the go through the consequences. I'm not giving you any further warning from now on. Action will keep on being taken when needed.

Thread will also be closed now due to
1. User openly admitted having support accounts - which have been blocked.
2. User openly admitted not wanting to follow the rules.
3. Although user's been warned about rule violation, he insists on doing it.
4. Time away from the community hasn't helped user realize the mistakes that led to his 1st block a while ago.