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Moderator
Joined: 15.02.2013
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Why do we accept songs like this one?

https://lyricstranslate.com/en/pepe-quintana-te-lo-meto-yo-lyrics.html

Offensive, in my opinion.

Moderator of Romance Languages
Joined: 31.03.2012

There are far worse ones too, I remember a Spanish translation about a song about having intercourse with a cadaver (so, basically about necrophilia) and I had nightmares about it just from reading it once. Unfortunately, it does not violate any rules and although vulgar, I think it should have a warning the way albums do to warn users about taking any necessary discretion.

Moderator
Joined: 15.02.2013

I know there are more. I just selected this as an example, hoping that, perhaps, a new category could be added to the list of offensive ones.

Thank you, Ellen, for your response.

(In Spain, that 'te la meto', is the worst).

Moderator of Romance Languages
Joined: 31.03.2012

I think I mentioned it as a suggestion before but overall, didn't feel that enough people care about it or felt it was "censoring" content on the site. I wholeheartedly agree though, that a warning or category should be added to for these songs; it might even work as an umbrella to cover any offensive content on the site that we can't remove or shouldn't remove (for educational purposes - ex. older works containing racism).

Honestly, I hear crap like this playing all the time and it's somehow worse in Spanish because if I hear it outside, you can bet your bottom dollar my mother heard it and it's the most awkward thing to acknowledge (plus it's too descriptive, I'm fine with vulgar language though).

Moderator
Joined: 15.02.2013

What I mentioned, let's say, it is the most vulgar.

Well, I don't think LT can be proud of publishing this genre.

Member
Joined: 31.08.2018

I even hate it when the English "F word" is in the title. I don't even want to see it in the title.

This is not a censorship issue; it is a issue of courtesy, politeness, manners, and consideration of how our actions affect other people.

As you've already said, it's a slippery slope and if it must be allowed, somehow keep it in a special location and out of "mainstream locations".

And what happens if I read disgusting lyrics/poetry, and I want to publicly comment, "That's disgusting!" Will my comment be deleted? But the song would not be deleted?

I think most mentally balanced and mature adults agree that having sex with a child, animal or corpse is disgusting.

If a Nazi or Ku Klux Klan member wants to post poetry about hatred of races/religions, would that be tolerated?

Moderator sapiens sapiens
Joined: 05.04.2012

We have rules for us to follow. I'll make the one that directly concerns sensitive content public.

Quote:

Only in most extreme cases lyrics and attached translations should be removed - songs that spread serious hate messages, racism, aggressive discrimination and/or provoke violence, for example (but not only) songs that are forbidden from being published in Germany because of the glorification of the nazis, and songs that glorify ISIS. If in doubt, please discuss it with the other Moderators.

It's been a very long discussion - to reach this consensus we spent a long long time discussing. Even a NSFW button/tag was suggested for songs that deal with more explicit, heavy content. But the concept of 'heavy' is different for each people. I myself have refused to translate a song because its lyrics compared women to pieces of meat that you can buy on the market. I just won't translate these songs and try not to deal with them anyhow unless it's needed, but I can't remove them based on my personal taste.

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Joined: 31.08.2018

Personally, I think sex with a corse is a "most extreme case". I'm relieved to hear glorification of racism or provocation of violence are specified in the rules. Since roster31 already warned that the song mentioned in the beginning of the thread is offensive, I will not read it. (With my poor Spanish, I probably wouldn't understand anyway.)

Pardon me for intruding, as I am not a moderator. But maybe moderators could have a voting buttons: Hide / Do Not Hide.

It reminds me of https://icanhas.cheezburger.com/. Mostly it's cute photos of animals with funny captions. But sometimes they get dirty. If they're bad enough, they get moved to a particular section of the site, I believe.

Moderator / hippie-abraça-árvore
Joined: 30.04.2014

I personally think it is important to translate these lyrics, so people don't listen to it and don't buy this kind of music if they don't like the content of the lyrics.

Member
Joined: 31.08.2018

Great point!!!

But the idea of some kind of warning or location has merit.

Patriotic songs have a location. Songs for worship have a location.

I love Cuban music and my native-English ears hear nothing offensive if c**** is used. I believe even a nun or the most polite person in Cuba would use it. But I still typed a warning in all caps in the comments for other Latin Americans.

The problem is, where and how to decide if lyrics are extreme enough to merit "EXPLICIT LYRICS" label. Maybe moderators vote and majority wins and a large label show at top of page?

Moderator sapiens sapiens
Joined: 05.04.2012

Truth is, a consensus will never be reached as definitions for 'profane', 'vulgar' and 'explicit' vary from person to person. I added a song that talks about sexual encounter - and other about a prostitute making her deal, not vulgar in language but explicit in thematics. As an alternative, the NSFW warning could suffice for now...

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