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Getting rid of these pesky "thank you" 5 stars rating

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I suppose this is nothing new, but I find it annoying when I get these famous 5 stars ratings from people who obviously don't speak the source language and just use 5 stars as a big thank you.

Since it's apparently not possible to use the reporting button to flag your own content, I would have to send whatever special request to the moderation team for each "thank you rating" I want to get rid of.

What about allowing to flag one's own songs and adding a new "inappropriate top rating" reason to the list?
Or maybe adding a button or something to allow a translator to "invalidate" a rating, on his/her own translations only, and 5 stars only (so that there would be no possible misuses except maybe from people who hate being considered good translators even by people fluent in both languages :))?
That's just a few ideas off the top of my head. Anything that would allow to cleanup these dummy ratings without pestering the moderation team would do.

Actually, if there was a "I don't want to be rated, use my translations at your own risk" option in my profile, I would check it at once. Giving users an option to step out of this rating game altogether would be even better as far as I'm concerned, but maybe that's a bit radical a solution.

What do you think?

Moderator of comparative linguistics
<a href="/hi/translator/knee427" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1110108">Alma Barroca</a>
जुड़ा: 05.04.2012

We have a space where we ask for unfair/unjustified/wrong votes to be removed. We do also have a list of all the ratings+justifications given, so we know what's fair and what's not.

It's a known problem that there are users who give 5 stars just to thank and not necessarily know the target and the base language, but unfortunately there's nothing we can do. Users who do this are always warned not to do that.

When you receive a vote like that, you can ask a Mod to review if it's fair or not. If it's not, it will be deleted. I'm afraid adding the buttons you proposed wouldn't work. There have been cases where users received a low rating, deleted the translation and added it again just for the rating to disappear.

BTW, you added two copies of this same topic, with 'inappropriate' being written instead of 'undeserved'. Was that on purpose?

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<a href="/hi/translator/cherrycrush" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1144880">CherryCrush</a>
जुड़ा: 07.12.2012

Hey, thanks for sharing your thoughts, I'll let the other moderators know about that topic, so I guess someone else will write after me too. I admire that you're actually want to improve and you don't want only high ratings, as that is always a debate type of topic.

The rating system has always been a big problem and abused many times - either by unjustified low or high "thank you" type of ratings. I personally don't use it much, except when I see a non-native speaker of my native language doing extremely good job, or for really good translations that I propose some corrections first. I have no idea whether a non-voting option can be made available, but will ask the admins about the flagging button, it may help a lot other users that feel their votes are unfair.

The easiest way to get rid of the votes you think are unfair is to write a message to someone of us, and we'll ask the admins to remove them, if they really are (because we can't do that, and hey, it's our job, so it's not really a pestering). Usually if we spot a user giving many unjustified ratings, we suspend their voting ability, if they don't stop after we warn them, but since our community is huge and no moderator can speak and check every language that exists, we always appreciate help from our members Regular smile Any possible other solutions are more than welcome (send them to us, if you don't want to make them public in the forum), and thank you again for sharing your opinion!

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<a href="/hi/translator/sandring" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1263066">sandring</a>
जुड़ा: 18.10.2015

Hey, Petit Eleve, relax, don't get so worked up! This site is for net users to find lyrics and translations. The site members can chat, exchange ideas, find friends and learn languages. All the rest in terms of ratings, badges, points, roles etc. is just part of a game, not part of a job you're paid for. Then why do you take it all so seriously? Do you propose to set up an inquisition board in here and drag miscreants to the pillory? The only thing that counts is how many people have read your translation. That's the only real thing. Bonne chance ce soir! Regular smile

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<a href="/hi/translator/greensattva" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1212099">Sophia_</a>
जुड़ा: 07.07.2014
petit élève wrote:

I suppose preventing users from rating before they post a few translations of their own, accumulate enough points and/or indicate at least some knowledge of relevant languages in their profiles would lower the count of these phoney ratings dramatically.

I'm exactly of the same opinion

Moderator of comparative linguistics
<a href="/hi/translator/knee427" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1110108">Alma Barroca</a>
जुड़ा: 05.04.2012

I remember I was part of a forum once that had something like a Karma system. Users who had +5 karma received something like a badge (I've suggested this in the past) and those who had -5 were banned or had some privileges removed. It'd be a nice thing around... As Gloria has already taken the issue for the Admins to consider, I'll write this for them as well.

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<a href="/hi/translator/koshkoi" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1283585">Koshkoi</a>
जुड़ा: 19.03.2016

This is a hobby site, not Metropolitan Opera. Let those who read or request a translation give or not give anything.

Moderator of comparative linguistics
<a href="/hi/translator/knee427" class="userpopupinfo username" rel="user1110108">Alma Barroca</a>
जुड़ा: 05.04.2012
Koshkoi wrote:

This is a hobby site, not Metropolitan Opera. Let those who read or request a translation give or not give anything.

The problem is that there are users who give 5 stars to translations into languages they don't know or simply to thank the user for having added it. It's in our rules that users should 'Only rate translations if you know both the source language and target language.', so users who break it are warned and may even have their rating ability removed if they insist on doing that. Consider the following example: would it make sense if I gave a Russian->Japanese translation 5 stars if I don't speak any of those languages? For that purpose, there's the 'Thanks' button and a space to leave a comment.

Everyone is free to thank and rate, there are just these rules that need to be taken in consideration.

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