[CLOSED] Prevent comments on your translations for selected users (Stop list)

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<a href="/ko/translator/don-juan" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1110108">Don Juan <div class="moderator_icon" title="مشرف" ></div></a>
등록: 05.04.2012

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<a href="/ko/translator/citl%C4%81licue" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1109697">citlālicue <div class="moderator_icon" title="Modérateur" ></div></a>
등록: 31.03.2012

I'm all for people speaking their minds, I cross the line at telling someone to: go die of cancer and hope they are r*ped, murdered and their family slaughtered like pigs, hung on trees and left to rot. (All these have been directed at me in the past. I am not in the least bit affected by such comments because they're just comments made by some poor deranged soul who has never been taught how to properly conduct themselves in public.).

Sometimes, users don't want to wait for the staff to come and deal with people leaving comments on their translations, you'd think some of the users who believe we are authoritarian would rejoice in being given some more powers. But if you can't use them to muzzle the staff, it's not worth it right?

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<a href="/ko/translator/don-juan" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1110108">Don Juan <div class="moderator_icon" title="مشرف" ></div></a>
등록: 05.04.2012
Igeethecat a scris:

If you want to punish me for saying mods are wrong, go ahead,

Just show us consistent evidence that one of us did something you think was wrong - and we will discuss it privately with our pairs, as I had previously said. That's how we determined, for instance, how to deal with conlangs, soundtracks, multiple featured artists, and even the dark interface.

There recently has been an user who had added GT -which were unpublished by a Mod-. Result? They later reported 5+ translations done by that Mod in an act of retaliation. No one is punished if they are right, but if people starting pointing fingers (and heck, I've been pointed fingers at a lot in the last months), they'll face the consequences.

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<a href="/ko/translator/igeethecat" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1365086">Igeethecat </a>
등록: 16.12.2017

How do I show you that St. Sol was banned for no reason?

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<a href="/ko/translator/don-juan" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1110108">Don Juan <div class="moderator_icon" title="مشرف" ></div></a>
등록: 05.04.2012

*for no reason*?

Well, he suggested the Admins, who afaik are Ukrainian, live in a place 'currently occupied by the heirs of WWII Nazi collaborators' (verbatim - and I have stored evidence that said comment ever existed). It's an offense based on nationality, so they were right to block them. I'm not even mentioning Sol's derogatory remarks against the team on this one, we all grew used to them and if they want to leave the website it's up to them. But in this particular case, you'd better ask the Admins themselves, we do not have the power to temporary block users.

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<a href="/ko/translator/igeethecat" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1365086">Igeethecat </a>
등록: 16.12.2017
Alma Barroca a scris:

*for no reason*?

Well, he suggested the Admins, who afaik are Ukrainian, live in a place 'currently occupied by the heirs of WWII Nazi collaborators' (verbatim - and I have stored evidence that said comment ever existed). It's an offense based on nationality, so they were right to block them. I'm not even mentioning Sol's derogatory remarks against the team on this one, we all grew used to them and if they want to leave the website it's up to them. But in this particular case, you'd better ask the Admins themselves, we do not have the power to temporary block users.

Am I alive? Hearing THIS from a mod,? I would certainly shoot myself death

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<a href="/ko/translator/citl%C4%81licue" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1109697">citlālicue <div class="moderator_icon" title="Modérateur" ></div></a>
등록: 31.03.2012

I had dinner, so I missed the comments right after my last one.

I asked you to elaborate on: we just don't like your efforts on the subjects you don't like or ones you don't understand
"Elaborate on this. If not directed at me, then give me an example of what you mean by this."

I also stated: If I have done so in the past, call me out on it (by that, I mean if I have done something wrong to you since you have replied to my comment instead of leaving a comment in the thread if you mean all of us or were hinting it to mean a specific someone whom you believed to have wronged you in the past). At no point did I or any of us mention St. Sol. So my question is: all of this because you disagree with how you believe St. Sol was treated and therefore, anything we do now is automatically considered wrong? The issue isn't with me, your issue is that you're unhappy with St. Sol being banned, be clear about that.

Since the answer to my question "Did I wrong you in some way?" is a resounding no, then there's nothing to discuss there.

Now, you have inserted your reason being St. Sol's previous ban, that's a whole different conversation. I want all users to understand the following:

Only the administrators can ban users, be in temporarily or permanently. Moderators and Editors do NOT have this ability, we can only do so if the user is an obvious troll/spammer. Any decisions made on bans are made by the administrators, they have the last word. We moderators (and editors) do not decide that, whether we agree or disagree with each other. If you are banned (even if it's temporarily), an administrator made that decision, not us, after carefully reviewing your case. Sometimes it takes weeks, even months for the administrators to decide "Hey, this user has been reported 40 times already, they're due for a 3 day / 1 month / etc. ban".

The log is pretty long, I went ahead and looked up the block you're referring to:
Monday, 6 July, 2020 - 15:35 - Blocked by admins (offensive comments) (Blocked for a week, he'll be back in a week basically).

I can keep looking, again; my door (inbox) is always open for discussion. I'm not being sarcastic, if you have questions: ask away. I (and we) have nothing to hide.

The comments that led to that decision are as follows:

Quote:

Ha, what did you expect from the resource, based in a place currently occupied by the heirs of WWII Nazi collaborators?

So, just in case there is a misunderstanding: St. Sol stated that: What did you (all) expect from a place (LyricsTranslate) currently occupied by the heirs of WWII Nazi collaborators (we, the staff members: administrators, moderators, editors). We have been compared to actual killers. How is that not offensive? (again, I'm not offended because I've faced discrimination all my life as a person of color (I am Mexican, in case that flew past anyone's mind).

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<a href="/ko/translator/blacksea4ever" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1390089">BlackSea4ever </a>
등록: 19.07.2018

There was once a post by AlMitra, I’m just paraphrasing: generalizations are an awful method to conclude the entire nation, country, race, gender and judge them as a group. Best to judge people individually and by their actions.

Stigma of being German, Jewish, Mexican, white, black, brown, polka dot, etc. serves one purpose - to divide us. There are bad men and women of every kind...

Btw, Sol should not be banned for blurting out a stupidity - our disdain should work. After all, his exact meaning is that we should not follow false idols - he’s right in that.

Hey, 42, this doesn’t count as politics, right? ❣️

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Letting people get away with such garbage talk would turn LT into YT in no time.
St Sol challenged authority in the bluntest possible way, and promptly got the result of his experiment.

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<a href="/ko/translator/pinchus" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1410652">Pinchus </a>
등록: 28.01.2019

Ой, неожиданное новшество. Поскольку я здесь самый болтливый, банить все будут меня.

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<a href="/ko/translator/don-juan" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1110108">Don Juan <div class="moderator_icon" title="مشرف" ></div></a>
등록: 05.04.2012

I mentioned Ukraine as well because they later expanded their comment and directly mentioned two Ukrainian nationalist extremists from yore, as well. But given his past, also applies.

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<a href="/ko/translator/citl%C4%81licue" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1109697">citlālicue <div class="moderator_icon" title="Modérateur" ></div></a>
등록: 31.03.2012

You said it (paraphrased it), not me: generalizations are an awful method to conclude the entire nation

Let's be clear since everyone insists on airing things out: St. Sol was once an editor. Many things happened between when he was an editor and after he was demoted of his editor status. After that point, St. Sol has clashed with the staff whenever possible, sometimes even leaving comments when other users were fighting just to incite more arguing, then would leave as swiftly as he came.

I thought this thread was about the admins telling users of a new function, not a discussion about St. Sol. If anyone wants to discuss it, I'll seriously consider opening a thread just for that, as long as we keep it civil. Why the stigma that "oh no, we can't 'argue' with the staff or they'll quiet us/shut us down"? Just be prepared to back things up with facts, if anyone wants to discuss: state facts not your personal opinions / feelings, leave that right at the door.

I also apologize in advance if I'm a bit crass, not all of us have fancy degrees or had the finest schooling.

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<a href="/ko/translator/almitra" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1432222">Almitra </a>
등록: 01.09.2019

D, that's right, I judge individuals based on their qualities, not their being part of a random category. It's just common sense, for there's nothing about your race, nationality, gender and whatnot that makes you "inherently" good or bad. But I will judge an individual who chooses to be part of a group whose ideas or actions I find reprehensible.

As for Sol's comment here, it was uncalled for and below the belt. You shouldn't go as far as condemning a country just to make your point. He seems like a smart individual, so why not use arguments to show why he believes a certain decision is a bad thing? I wouldn't like it if someone told me, "Your decision is dumb! But what else could you expect from a Russkie." It's offensive, and it's a non-argument.

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A harsh word escaping during a heated discussion is one thing, a trolling one-liner is something else. Especially following many other snide remarks he routinely drops out of the blue.

We all know how subtle St Sol can be. This was deliberate coarseness. An obvious provocation, like he's been doing constantly for the past two years. Only this time he grossly violated rule #1 and didn't get away with it.

This is regrettable, but far less than seeing LT become a place where people can troll around and trade insults freely.

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<a href="/ko/translator/citl%C4%81licue" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1109697">citlālicue <div class="moderator_icon" title="Modérateur" ></div></a>
등록: 31.03.2012

I wasn't in the least bit provoked by St. Sol's comment, maybe because I didn't think he was silly enough to make such a comparison. It honestly just made me curious as to why users were against stopping certain users from leaving them comments and why mods / editors weren't allowed to be added to that list. We clearly saw that:

1. St. Sol is still sore about being demoted, in his eyes; we are a group similar to WWII Nazi collaborators = he's comparing his demotion to the millions of lives lost during WWII. Let that sink in. All his comments have always been to compare us to the horrors of the past, we embody them (to his eyes). How can anyone defend someone who could care so little for all those people who lost their lives in WWII to him being stripped of his Editor rights? If you sympathize with him, there's something very wrong with you.

2. The issue wasn't that users can't add mods / editors, the issue for Igeethecat was that St. Sol was temporarily banned (for a week) by the administrators for making that comment. Either they didn't see anything wrong with the comment, agreed with it or have a similar view of the staff (by some wrong they've been dealt in the past, which I had asked they elaborate on; their reply was St. Sol.)

Anyone else want to voice their disagreement? go right ahead, just be ready to pull out receipts. Again, because people seem to be sensitive to things I've said in the past: I am not being sarcastic, I am not being a "smart ass", I am not being an assh*le. Do send me a PM if you want to discuss, I'm not a close-minded, ignorant, stubborn person to not want to listen to what you have to say.

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<a href="/ko/translator/sr-serm%C3%A1s" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1313317">Sr. Sermás </a>
등록: 31.10.2016

Благодарю от всего сердца!!! Чудо произошло!!! Теперь у меня в комментариях будет Чисто, Светло и Хорошо.

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<a href="/ko/translator/citl%C4%81licue" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1109697">citlālicue <div class="moderator_icon" title="Modérateur" ></div></a>
등록: 31.03.2012

Why the comment? that's rude. If you think their translations are "crap", leave it be. Are you here to translate for yourself or to come and correct other users (or specific users)? Your comment tells me you have something personal against them, was the comment directed at you?

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<a href="/ko/translator/sr-serm%C3%A1s" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1313317">Sr. Sermás </a>
등록: 31.10.2016

Мария я вас прощаю за все что вы мне причинили и желаю вам и вашим друзьям Ст.Солу, Брату и Пинхасу Добра, Счастья и Всех Благ. И вы простите меня и ПРОЩЕВАЙТЕ!!!

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<a href="/ko/translator/citl%C4%81licue" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1109697">citlālicue <div class="moderator_icon" title="Modérateur" ></div></a>
등록: 31.03.2012

Talk about beating a dead horse, jeez.

I don't mean to be rude but the comments were taken over by people with personal issues with others, not to voice their disagreement about the new feature. So unless anyone wants to voice their actual disagreement to just the feature, I don't see why we should keep discussing anything. Everyone resolve your personal issues amongst yourself or simply ignore each other.

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<a href="/ko/translator/almitra" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1432222">Almitra </a>
등록: 01.09.2019

There's still the question posed by 42 (Schnurrbrat) that needs an answer. It's a legit question. If someone were to add you to a Stop List, would that also mean that you wouldn't be able to rate their translations, given that a vote is treated as a comment, and votes below 5 require an explanatory comment?

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<a href="/ko/translator/citl%C4%81licue" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1109697">citlālicue <div class="moderator_icon" title="Modérateur" ></div></a>
등록: 31.03.2012

Users who are added to your Stop List can't:

- Leave comments on your translations
- Vote on your translations

They will see the following message: https://imgur.com/vQX3F1L

[@lt] You might want to change the message, just to be clear (and gender neutral):

Instead of: The author of this translation has blocked for you the ability to comment on his translations

This: The author of this translation has added you to their Stop List, blocking your ability to comment or rate their translations.

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<a href="/ko/translator/vladimir4757" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1407413">Vladimir4757 </a>
등록: 31.12.2018

I just have three things to say :
1. Hate speech is free speech, the line is drawn when people use their controversial opinions to attack, assault, or demean another person out of retaliation or to intentionally cause harm or stir a scene.
2. Moderators are not the virtuous descendants of Gods and shouldn't use their powers to intimidate, retaliate or attack other people. They're moderators. Not V from V for Vendetta with a justified reason for their vendetta or a contrived backstory into why they can just fuck with other people. If your behavior resembles that of a petty asshole with a power-fix, someone might need to question how you became a mod in the first place.
3. Unfortunately, no personal opinion is always correct. Morality isn't objective, it's subjective, and this goes for literally everything in life. You may believe your beliefs are on the correct side of history and that you represent all the good in the world, however, no matter what, there is always a group of people who see you as the reason why their beliefs are being censored and that you are the problem, not them. And unfortunately, there are people who would rather force-feed their beliefs or even use violence to enforce their beliefs instead of having a meaningful conversation. In reality, there is never a perfect argument unless both sides set aside their biases and remove all personal attachments to the argument; and nothing is stopping one person from derailing the argument by insulting the other person just because they said something the other party disagrees with.

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Thank you for clearing this out.
To me it looks excessive, since 5,4,3,2 or 1 star(s) can't be treated as offense of any sort.
Votes could be inappropriate, but there is a working system in place on how to report them.
If this new feature is unavoidable, I would at least hope that comments and votes would be treated separately.
Otherwise, such a scenario is very likely:
I will post something silly. User A would give me n(4321) stars. I will ban User A and I will delete my translation.
I will repost my silly translation. User B would give me n(4321) stars. I will ban User B and I will delete my translation.
I will repost my silly translation yet again.
I will post something silly.
...
I will post something silly.

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<a href="/ko/translator/miguel1" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1449808">Miguel1 </a>
등록: 20.03.2020

So I just stumbled upon this thread...

da fuck they doin ova there

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<a href="/ko/translator/florazina" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1420537">florazina <div class="editor_icon" title="Φροντιστής" ></div></a>
등록: 04.05.2019
lt a scris:

The new "Stop List" feature allows you to prevent comments on your translations for selected users.

Only on translations? What about collections?

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<a href="/ko/translator/citl%C4%81licue" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1109697">citlālicue <div class="moderator_icon" title="Modérateur" ></div></a>
등록: 31.03.2012
Vladimir4757 a scris:

I just have three things to say :
1. Hate speech is free speech, the line is drawn when people use their controversial opinions to attack, assault, or demean another person out of retaliation or to intentionally cause harm or stir a scene.
2. Moderators are not the virtuous descendants of Gods and shouldn't use their powers to intimidate, retaliate or attack other people. They're moderators. Not V from V for Vendetta with a justified reason for their vendetta or a contrived backstory into why they can just fuck with other people. If your behavior resembles that of a petty asshole with a power-fix, someone might need to question how you became a mod in the first place.
3. Unfortunately, no personal opinion is always correct. Morality isn't objective, it's subjective, and this goes for literally everything in life. You may believe your beliefs are on the correct side of history and that you represent all the good in the world, however, no matter what, there is always a group of people who see you as the reason why their beliefs are being censored and that you are the problem, not them. And unfortunately, there are people who would rather force-feed their beliefs or even use violence to enforce their beliefs instead of having a meaningful conversation. In reality, there is never a perfect argument unless both sides set aside their biases and remove all personal attachments to the argument; and nothing is stopping one person from derailing the argument by insulting the other person just because they said something the other party disagrees with.

1. With free speech comes consequences, regardless of what you say. You could say the sky is "red" and someone else has the right to tell you off on that comment. But you're right, we draw the line when people use their free speech to make their controversial opinions heard, when they attack others, threaten them (with violence or death), demean them or intentionally appear to cause a scene.

2. Who ever said we were gods? people who usually make comments like this have their own deep and inner issues with authority figures (stemming from a traumatic experience in their past). If people want to say something we did is unfair, they can:
- Contact the administrators: send evidence, quote the rules, etc.
- If the staff member is found out to have made a mistake, they are reprimanded.
- Many mistakes can lead to demotion.

However, if the user calling out "injustice!" is a well known rule breaker (aka "I don't have to abide by the rules, I do my own thing"), do you really expect us to argue with them? Sometimes it's better off handing them a temporary ban if they insist on breaking the rules, it's simple as that.

It's not all pink and roses, even we amongst ourselves will argue back and forth about what should be done, what shouldn't be done, what's fair and what isn't. We call each other out on our shit, checks and balances. If you think otherwise, please go ahead and tell me:
- Which moderator you're referring to
- What is it that they did that you believe was an abuse of their power
- Provide evidence (PMs, comments, emails etc. - screenshot it, quote the rules etc.)

3. I'm not sure where you're going with this, this strays from the entire topic, that comment could cover pretty much anything. But that's your personal opinion, you're entitled to it and I respect that, we'll leave it at that.

Schnurrbrat a scris:

Thank you for clearing this out.
To me it looks excessive, since 5,4,3,2 or 1 star(s) can't be treated as offense of any sort.
Votes could be inappropriate, but there is a working system in place on how to report them.
If this new feature is unavoidable, I would at least hope that comments and votes would be treated separately.
Otherwise, such a scenario is very likely:
I will post something silly. User A would give me n(4321) stars. I will ban User A and I will delete my translation.
I will repost my silly translation. User B would give me n(4321) stars. I will ban User B and I will delete my translation.
I will repost my silly translation yet again.
I will post something silly.
...
I will post something silly.

Unfortunately, the system fails sometimes. I've seen 1 star votes from 5 years ago still present today, either gone unreported or at the very bottom of the list. If a user wants to retaliate against you, you can defend yourself from having to be harassed. You have as much of a right to not want someone to leave comments / vote on your translations as they have the same rights to do it :/

I just hope that people who have no knowledge of a language and insist on spitting out GT translations don't abuse it to keep people from giving them 1 star ratings and calling them out on their shit. Maybe the ability to vote shouldn't be blocked. Those could just be reported.

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<a href="/ko/translator/citl%C4%81licue" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1109697">citlālicue <div class="moderator_icon" title="Modérateur" ></div></a>
등록: 31.03.2012
florxquin a scris:
lt a scris:

The new "Stop List" feature allows you to prevent comments on your translations for selected users.

Only on translations? What about collections?

Only on translations. Users can still leave comments in your collections.

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[@miguel1] To answer the cat: da fuck I know. Killing time, I guess?

[@schnurrbrat] On the other hand, allowing to vote while blocked could cause people to use votes as a cheap way of forcing the blockade. Possibly with harsher than needed ratings, as an expression of resentment.

The problem I see is that this might ruffle some feathers either way. If people just need a minute to shut up the criticism with no special justification, there will be abuses:
How dare you question the perfection of my work?
Click. Tap tap tap. Enter.
There, now go talk to the walls, buddy!

Blocking is a common feature on chats, but LT is not just a chat. It's a place where people publish their creations, and are supposed to serve a text that does not belong to them. Ideally, it's all about sharing. Personally, I find this idea of selfless collaborative work fascinating.

I don't think this feature is a step in the good direction, in that respect. It might be necessary to contain the aggressivity of some, but it will also favour people who are less open to dialogue or sharing and rather come here to feed their narcissism. A trait which has already been cultivated quite enough without providing automated tools to encourage it, in my opinion.

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Clearly, there are two major groups of users on LT: one appreciates feedback through the comments field and other does not. These groups usually do not overlap in their activity. AFAIK, this feature is being added in response to the situation(s) when users from both groups got in touch, and it made the sparks fly. So this feature will diffuse (to a certain degree) the interaction between certain users, but one could anticipate even further division once this feature is implemented.

The use of votes as an expression of resentment is not new. And users usually easily collaborate with mods when this happens. Reporting votes is easy for anyone. So I don't see the blockage of votes as a reasonable feature on top of  the voting system which is far from ideal. IMHO, if there is something broken on LT it is the voting system, but I'll not discuss it anymore, we had a few topics on that.

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<a href="/ko/translator/jadis" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1387945">Jadis </a>
등록: 01.07.2018

As to me, I think that many translations on LT are so bad that they don't even deserve a comment (but unfortunately, this is also the case for many original texts, i.e. the ones that get translated with most enthusiasm). Usually when I come across one of these texts I just nod my head in despair and try to forget them at once.
But sometimes it happens that for some reason I feel concerned, and especially if the translation got a lot of "likes". I may then add a small venomous remark (but still rather benign), so that the not-too-gullible reader can read it between the lines. But this is mainly losing one's time, I guess.
As to my own translations, I'm always glad to get comments and corrections and always read them and think about them (and often follow the recommendations), and I must say I can't remember having been really harassed by outrageous comments.
But, true, I hate any kind of censorship.

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<a href="/ko/translator/don-juan" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1110108">Don Juan <div class="moderator_icon" title="مشرف" ></div></a>
등록: 05.04.2012

[@Igeethecat], I just unpublished your comment due to insult. If you think someone's translation is not good do not publicly offend their authors. Not asking you to sugarcoat information or not say whatever you want, but calling someone's work 'crap' is not acceptable. Thank you for understanding.

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<a href="/ko/translator/don-juan" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1110108">Don Juan <div class="moderator_icon" title="مشرف" ></div></a>
등록: 05.04.2012

[@líadan] and [@lt], I think we should close the thread as the main point of discussion was already pointed out.

Maybe there could be something in the FAQ and/or Website Rules regarding the 'stop list' and how to deal with it.

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Кошак бесится. Когда все ее забанят, негде будет ей гадить, кроме как у себя.

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<a href="/ko/translator/pinchus" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1410652">Pinchus </a>
등록: 28.01.2019

>Users who are added to your Stop List can't:
>- Leave comments on your translations
Ok, it makes sense
>- Vote on your translations
If you are not ready to vote for me, you will not vote at all. Wow! Putin was right when he said that Russia is anywhere. It seems, LT encourages dweebs who do not accept criticism. But only criticism makes us better.

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LT made a defense against assholes, and he did the right thing.

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<a href="/ko/translator/florazina" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1420537">florazina <div class="editor_icon" title="Φροντιστής" ></div></a>
등록: 04.05.2019

You all complain about everything as always..
Annoying AF

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<a href="/ko/translator/florazina" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1420537">florazina <div class="editor_icon" title="Φροντιστής" ></div></a>
등록: 04.05.2019
Alma Barroca a scris:

[@líadan] and [@lt], I think we should close the thread as the main point of discussion was already pointed out.

Maybe there could be something in the FAQ and/or Website Rules regarding the 'stop list' and how to deal with it.

I think you should.

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When someone comes to your house and shits, will you also be silent and not complain?

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<a href="/ko/translator/almitra" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1432222">Almitra </a>
등록: 01.09.2019
florxquin a scris:

You all complain about everything as always..
Annoying AF

People are discussing. What I find annoying is when people use generalisations like "all" to dismiss someone else's opinion as irrelevant.

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<a href="/ko/translator/florazina" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1420537">florazina <div class="editor_icon" title="Φροντιστής" ></div></a>
등록: 04.05.2019

Whatever. I'm out.
This is a website NOT real life.

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<a href="/ko/translator/almitra" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1432222">Almitra </a>
등록: 01.09.2019

By the way, the Stop List feature option seems to have disappeared, at least for me. Not that I'm planning on blocking anyone any time soon, just curious.

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<a href="/ko/translator/vladimir4757" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1407413">Vladimir4757 </a>
등록: 31.12.2018

These were just general opinions I have, regardless of whether-or-not it's on LT or any other website. Mods here are fairly good, but I've seen mods who act like they're gods, and others that go out of their way to punish others. I should've clarrified that these three things go regardless of website but, well, they go regardless of website.

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<a href="/ko/translator/don-juan" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1110108">Don Juan <div class="moderator_icon" title="مشرف" ></div></a>
등록: 05.04.2012

Doesn't the button appear any more in your profile page? In mine, it still does.

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<a href="/ko/translator/almitra" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1432222">Almitra </a>
등록: 01.09.2019

No, Juan, it doesn't. It was there yesterday. Now it's gone.

UPD: I've tried switching between languages, logging in and out, clearing cookies and logging in again. No luck.

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<a href="/ko/translator/iremia" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1440703">Iremia <div class="editor_icon" title="Éditeur" ></div></a>
등록: 09.12.2019
florxquin a scris:

Whatever. I'm out.
This is a website NOT real life.

And you are an editor? I wouldn’t say you exhibited a proper attitude. Yes, this is a website, but this is a real life with real life rules and issues. This is very disrespectful to the most users here on LT.

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I think mods there are extremely tolerable. Some websites would ban you just for discussing mods.

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New feature acknowledged. No real life to go back to, but I'll try to be less annoying for a little while.

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<a href="/ko/translator/radu-robert" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1343167">Radu Robert </a>
등록: 26.06.2017

People Macking the difference between what is of a real importaqnce in life and virtual life ...can't and won't ever be called as you did, as an ofense/disrespectful to nobody . What you can call disrespectful is a comment like St.Sol did .. i mean you can't do an verbal attack on nationality ..etc .. and go in such a manner way off topic.Maybe and prolly , some of The people complaining about this ferature are the ones that do abuse those comment sections and do transform them in a place where they can refulate their own life frustrations by .. either abusing the vote system ( giving votes, for ex .. based only on simply contextual things . like replacing some words with synonyms .. or with a more direct way of reprhrasing those lines aka word to word .. and call it a "valid vote" ) .. THese comment sections are also flooded by people that stray way too far from the subject or post any type of comment that's not helpful or related .. So the feature is a good one .. and the reasons are the ones above .. The ones saying otherwise should really think if they'd like people commenting on and on, on their work, and leaving irrelevant votes based on replacement of words with synonyms .. or even worse with comments that are telling them how they should not try to get the lines connected and give them a meaning(the true closest meaning of tha original that they'd truly contain) , as translating do mean that .. but to rather leave them as they are and do them in a direct way /word to word mechanical way) .. I think we do not want that no ?

For all o the reasons above i think @Lt made a good decisions and added a nice feature . Oh and btw .. Just out of curiousity .. what part of the florxquin behaviour seemed maked you think that she didn't exhibited a proper attitude?! I'M JUST asking .. because till the moment you'll clarify it out .. i will , and the only thind your assumption is telling me is that you really think that any nmod or edit .. should really only follow the flock .. and conform .. even if they do really still have other arguments and beliefs on a subject .. I really hope it isn't what i think .. and do please enlighten me .. on how a staff member should behave ? .. That's it for now .. and just a bit of a dvice .. Please do not take things so personal after all ..just like florxquin said .. This do really is an virtual enviroment .. and not all should be taken to the heart .. i mean lif do really have things of a greater importance .,, to care about . As a comparision .. for you to understand wha ti say .. i can offer you the recent event between St.Sool and Lt admins .. What if they'd also feel that comment so so disrespectful i mean // at the level of unacceptable and would decide to ban permanently the user ?! Do you think that would've been the right decision ? I think not .. and to get back on point with what i've said .. the fact they've choosed to only give a warning showed that even as admins tehy do know to diferentiate some things .. (you know .. what i;ve said .. real life .. /real/greater problems etc.. ) By their decision they;ve showed allowance and exactly the opposite of what our fellow member stated about them /or embeded them as . Sorry for the typos ..i m kinda tired after 3 rd shift .. that's all i'm out ..

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<a href="/ko/translator/blacksea4ever" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1390089">BlackSea4ever </a>
등록: 19.07.2018

I think there’s something in the air. Except for the two offensive remarks (that were not made by mods), there are the following takeaways:
> it’s not censorship if S doesn’t want to hear from M on his translation pages because remarks were ego-testing - they can work things out in PM. Or not. If language was sensible, this feature would not be needed because suggestions and criticism are and should be welcomed.
> There are too much of editorial comments and mods get to read them all and make sense of what is being said. I don’t think mods or editors said anything to offend us, users.
> all that possibly can be said, was said. I’m in agreement this thread can be closed. Let’s be a bit more kind to each other by judging how would we feel in the other’s shoes.

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<a href="/ko/translator/iremia" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1440703">Iremia <div class="editor_icon" title="Éditeur" ></div></a>
등록: 09.12.2019

@Radu Robert, I did not say that I approved of St.Sol’s remarks - in fact, I very much didn’t. So please do not jam two (actually, three) different issues in one. I am not saying that Admins, Mods, and Editors are bad in any case. Again, do not mix the topics. But I DO think that florxquin made a bad remark, especially being an editor who’s role is to help people here, to dismiss this site as being NOT real life. This kind of attitude tells me, at least, that she doesn’t take her role and people here seriously. If it doesn’t bother you, fine. But it bothered me, as much as any negative comment would. We come here, most of us at least, and expect to be treated fairly, hence this new button, and I don’t expect dismissive behaviour from a editor. I know the ones I dealt with were excellent in their help and attitude. I hope this answer satisfies your inquiry.

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