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Question: Why some thankings are made by anonymous guests while other are made by members? Who could be a anonymous guest in a eponymous forum?
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OK, Иосиф,
так ведь я могу и распалиться на самом... więcej
angielski
prowansalski (oksytański) → angielski
prowansalski (oksytański) → francuski
włoski → macedoński
prowansalski (oksytański)
angielski → portugalski
You don't have to be logged in to view lyrics and their translations, or to thank the translator.
I think this feature should be disabled , cuz it opens the door to fake thanks....I mean for example someone can log out and thank himself using guest thanks feature , or connecting with different IP's to thank himself many times.....this feature should be updated , I'm with member thanks cuz you feel that you helped someone , when you open the profile and see that he/she is interested in the language , so that means you help him/her to learn , unlike guest thanks that no one knows if he/she is really interested or not :)
I think one would have to lead a very sad existence to make fake "thanks" for him-/herself on LT! :D I don't know if it exists, but I hope the members here have more self-respect than that. And if they don't, so what? If it makes their lives more meaningful, then so be it. It's not a competition who collects the most "thanks". I agree that it's nice to get thanks, because it means that someone found your translation good and helpful, but I don't agree that a guest's "thanks" are worth any less than a member's. And if someone searches for a translation of some lyrics and finds them here on LT, then I don't think he or she should have to become a member to be able to thank the translator.
Requests can only be opened by registered members. 'Thanks' can be given by anyone who access the website, registered or not. Maybe the person who thanked you didn't want to create a new account ;)
It also works like this for pretty much every other function of the website - only registered members can add new artists/lyrics/translations/threads/etc.
The thanks feature was added to discourage fake ratings (i.e. ratings given to say thanks without actually knowing both of the languages in question).
There certainly are some bots abusing the thanks system (I'm getting about 1 thanks per day on https://lyricstranslate.com/en/super-mario-odyssey-ost-jump-super-star-l...). But it doesn't do any harm, so I see no reason to disable it.
but how can I know if he thank me cuz he learnt new words from the translation or just a visitor who don't know where to click and did it by mistake :D I understand there is a need for privacy for some people ...but it's my way to self-evaluate my work , I can't base on anon guests to say that I did a good job ... am I the only one who feel this hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Well, you wouldn't know it either if the thanker would need to log in to thank you and therefore wouldn't thank you at all.
Comments beneath translations are something I get pretty rarely anyway, and adding the thanks feature hasn't made any difference that I would have noticed.
Well, which exact changes would you suggest?
The number of thanks isn't that important, I believe, but the number of reads is. I would make the number visible to all visitors and users. It reveals how interesting translations really are. Now I can enjoy my number only on my own. :)
I wouldn't mind the read numbers being visible, but how would that show how interesting something is?
Just because no one knows it doesn't mean it's bad - just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good. So it would only reveal the popularity, and even that not necessarily exactly.
Why disabling it? Thanks is a way of apperciating and encourging us translators...
But there is an effort behind it and i think it should be appreciated...if a good translation didn't know the expected success (watched xxxx times , being on top of search results whenever s.o looks for the song) , then how the translator will be motivated to do another translation , well , hobby ...yes , but sometimes , we need some kind of motivation to keep going , am I wrong hhhhhhhhhhh
it's OK , I'm convinced :D , I was talkin abt guest thanks only ...anyways , you all convinced me and I need to change the way I see things :D :D
At least that could keep the general picture balanced. The number of reads - the number of thanks - the ratings. Anyway, let readers decide which translation is good, which is not. Many men, many minds. The truth is beyond there.
@doctordepressionistas: That sounds reasonable. Thanks for contributing!
Is there a way to thank the thanks givers?
If they were logged in you could leave them comments or thanks on their own translations or write them a message. But otherwise, no.
Hansi has thanked you for your song. It is not like that it's thanked just because it's been edited. Probably he had noticed a mistake and wanted to edit it.
While I do respect everyone's right of their own opinions and while I wish LT to remain a friendly and open online community I also wish my life would be so easy and carefree that nitpicking the "thanks" feature and dissecting what each "thanks" meant to each specific person giving them, at any given time, would be my biggest concern and that I would have oceans of time to discuss it... *shaking my head*
The user names of logged-in thankers should be shown when you click on the "thanked x times" beneath the lyrics/translation. Which entry are you talking about?
The website rules and FAQ don't mention the feature of thanking at all, so what are you referring to?
[@Sciera] he's talking about this song: https://lyricstranslate.com/en/ramones-bonzo-goes-bitburg-my-brain-hangi...
And the user name who had thanked the song is shown when you click on the button Sciera mentioned, it's available even for me..
And I don't quite understand what is wrong with thanks...
The thanks system works no different to mods and editors.
Novices also can give thanks and get thanks.
No one is allowed to edit other people's translations, if it is what you ask.
You are the one who edits your translations. People may give you suggestions how to make it better. Mods are allowed to edit other people's translations only if they just change the language and this kind of minor things.
What I mean by that:
For example you have chosen the language of translation Hebrew, but in fact it's into Greek, then a mod may correct it.
It may happen by mistake. Trust me, we've seen this case more than once or twice. People choose wrong language by mistake. They choose wrong language, and it needs to be corrected.
I think you didn't get my point. I emphasize again:
For example you have chosen the language of translation Hebrew, but in fact it's into Greek, then a mod may correct it.
No, not google translation. You're supposed to translate into X language, but accidently you click on the Y language.
By one word, your translations are your responsibilities and no one edits them. No one's abusing people's rights.
Just clarifying things.
What do you want to be changed? Rules exist for not abusing people's rights anyways.
I don't understand why you have to scream???
What is wrong in your opinion? If you think there is something wrong, you should give us examples. I, myself, see nothing wrong, so you are to show us what is wrong, so that we can agree with you.
Okay, I've read the comments. Why is this all taken so seriously? What has happened anyway? Someone changed your translation? In what way?
I'm just getting that you want changes that you don't clarify. Can you write some more than just one sentence and trying to get more clear? I guess everybody wants only to understand and help you to feel okay again. Right now you seem to be in an uproar and everybody feels bad about it.
Excatly! And we can't help if we don't know the matter.
That's because we don't see what you see and if we're not explained what we don't see, then no one can help.
I'd like to hear them :)
Why should we remove the thanking system? People might not want to register in the website but they want to engage in our activities, so what's the harm in Guests thanking?
No one is allowed to edit other people's translations unless it's for something minor, as taddy said: wrong language, wrong or non-existing source (people usually put 'Myself' in 'translation source'), etc. There are also users that aren't any longer around, so their content, if there's something wrong in it, goes edited. That's why there are like thousands of Mod comments around the website each day.
If you translate into/from languages others don't generally know you will see little to no votes/ratings. So 'Thanks' are the only recognition besides a view count that there is any interest or measurable quality to your work. I have been told that many people visiting 'shy away' if they have to register to vote. Thanks, give them a sense of non-long-term commitment while expressing their brief appreciation.
Keep in mind the real goal should be to provide a lasting and accurate legacy that outlives an individual's name or pride. Many cultures are not openly expressive or computer savvy. Paint a picture that you are proud of. Then in the end your self realization will be always present. Awaiting recognition often leads to disappointment and 'sour grapes'. Your cause is your own, with or without thanks (or votes). ;)
To Doctor Depressionistas
too much honor for me. :*)
We'll just all have to be patient and see what you've been up to.