Machine-learning assisted automatic transcription for transcription requests

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<a href="/ru/translator/sailor-pokemoon2" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1399679">Sailor PokeMoon2 </a>
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Sailor PokeMoon2 ha scritto:

I don't need to know hardly any Arabic to know this is VERY incorrect and VERY inaccurate https://lyricstranslate.com/en/bob-builder-ost-bob-builder-intro-arabic-... Google Translate translates it as music so it's the word music being used over and over again.

This one says the same thing too https://lyricstranslate.com/en/bob-builder-ost-bob-builder-intro-arabic-...

I'd like to ask about this again if that's ok?

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<a href="/ru/translator/ll-teixo" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1437567">LL Teixo </a>
Регистрация: 04.11.2019

Adorei a novidade! Já ajudou bem em uma letra, muito promissor. Parabéns a toda equipe do Lyrics Translate e todos os colaboradores que fazem e mantêm esse que é um dos melhores sites da internet.

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<a href="/ru/translator/don-juan" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1110108">Don Juan <div class="moderator_icon" title="Moderator" ></div></a>
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LT ha scritto:
Alma Barroca ha scritto:

And, hmmm... Where does 'Sottotitoli e revisione a cura di QTSS' come from here? (It basically says the subtitles were proofread and provided by this QTSS).

Our guess is that this line was in video subtitles the model was trained with, so the model thinks that songs may end in this way.
Other common examples are "Sous-titres réalisés para la communauté d'Amara.org", "Sottotitoli creati dalla comunità Amara.org"
"Subscribe to the channel" etc.

[@Sailor PokeMoon2] refer to this. It's not ok, but if one isn't going to add that fake transcription it is not to worry. As Admins stated this is a new tool and likely will be updated with time.

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<a href="/ru/translator/lt" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1">LT </a>
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Ondagordanto ha scritto:

However, I'm having trouble finding the following chain nodes to translate in the interface:

  • AI transcripion provided
  • This transcription has been generated by a machine-learning model and it may contain errors or inaccuracies. Please ensure to thoroughly review and verify the contents before submitting.
  • This request has an AI transcription

Could they be made available, please? Thank you in advance.

Now they are available, thanks!

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<a href="/ru/translator/sailor-pokemoon2" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1399679">Sailor PokeMoon2 </a>
Регистрация: 21.10.2018

Thank you for clarifying that for me.

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<a href="/ru/translator/minorthreat" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1547622">minorthreat <div class="editor_icon" title="Editor/in" ></div></a>
Регистрация: 14.09.2022

The notifications are honestly getting a little annoying and spammy

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<a href="/ru/translator/sailor-pokemoon2" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1399679">Sailor PokeMoon2 </a>
Регистрация: 21.10.2018

Agreed

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<a href="/ru/translator/saturnine" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1518037">saturnine <div class="editor_icon" title="  Editoija" ></div></a>
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I'm curious why I get a second notification, sometimes even a third, around 15 minutes after the 1st notification. Is there some kind of re-run of the feature? Sometimes I notice small differences in the output.

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<a href="/ru/translator/sailor-pokemoon2" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1399679">Sailor PokeMoon2 </a>
Регистрация: 21.10.2018

I didn't mean to submit this! I know these lyrics aren't correct so could someone please unpublish this or look over the lyrics? I'm pretty sure the machine lyrics were incorrect https://lyricstranslate.com/en/sleeping-beauty-ost-hail-princess-aurora-...

Update: thank you but can the lyrics request still be open?

I had mistaken the AI given lyrics for the actual lyrics.

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<a href="/ru/translator/altermetax" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1360194">altermetax <div class="moderator_icon" title="Модератор" ></div></a>
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The request is already open, it got reopened automatically when I unpublished the song.

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<a href="/ru/translator/sailor-pokemoon2" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1399679">Sailor PokeMoon2 </a>
Регистрация: 21.10.2018

Thank you and sorry for mistaken those fake lyrics for the real lyrics (I'm sure I haven't been the only one that has done that)

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<a href="/ru/translator/jordanyt" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1442908">JordanYT </a>
Регистрация: 05.01.2020

How does one use the AI Models to transcribe part of the lyrics?

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<a href="/ru/translator/altermetax" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1360194">altermetax <div class="moderator_icon" title="Модератор" ></div></a>
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Transcription requests in the supported languages are transcribed automatically. If it doesn't happen, you can bump a request to send it to the top of the list and increase the priority of its transcription.
If you mean that you only want to transcribe a part of a video, I don't think you can do that via LT.

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<a href="/ru/translator/lt" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1">LT </a>
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saturnine ha scritto:

I'm curious why I get a second notification, sometimes even a third, around 15 minutes after the 1st notification. Is there some kind of re-run of the feature? Sometimes I notice small differences in the output.

Thanks for reporting a bug! Yes, it was a duplicate transcribing happening each time, with apparently different results.
It was fixed, hopefully.

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<a href="/ru/translator/luis-silva-avlis" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1503622">Luis Silva Avlis </a>
Регистрация: 10.06.2021

Wouldn't it be better to send out a notification about partial AI transcription only after all the transcription requests from the user are parsed by it? I have hundreds of transcription requests in the queue, I don't want to receive hundreds of notifications for each one of them

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<a href="/ru/translator/sailor-pokemoon2" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1399679">Sailor PokeMoon2 </a>
Регистрация: 21.10.2018

I was thinking about that too... Honestly I wouldn't want that to happen to me either or anyone for that matter

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<a href="/ru/translator/citl%C4%81licue" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1109697">citlālicue <div class="moderator_icon" title="Moderator" ></div></a>
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[@lt] I have noticed an increase of users using this new feature to fill their own requests or they're doing it for the sake of points. Users should:

• Be awarded 0 points for clicking the "Submit" button and not making any changes to the transcription.
• It should be made very clear that it was AI generated and a disclaimer should be present: This transcription was generated with AI and may contain mistakes.
• AI generated transcriptions should automatically have the "Proofreading Requested" option selected.
• Another option should be introduced: "Lyrics have been proofread" to ease readers who come across the lyrics.
• Maybe increase the role you need to have to use this, maybe to "Expert" and above users.

If I submit a transcription request in a language I don't speak, I expect it to be filled by someone who understands the language or can verify the quality of the lyrics. If every Mary and John can click "Submit", get points for it, make a mess of the site, then I don't see how this feature is supposed to help anyone. Make it so that users HAVE to check the quality before submitting it, discourage points/badges being awarded for this.

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<a href="/ru/translator/sailor-pokemoon2" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1399679">Sailor PokeMoon2 </a>
Регистрация: 21.10.2018

I've been noticing that too especially with "new" users. I think it might just cause spam to happen (though I'm one to talk)

Example: the word music being used throughout the entire request. And that's all it says.

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<a href="/ru/translator/sailor-pokemoon2" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1399679">Sailor PokeMoon2 </a>
Регистрация: 21.10.2018

Is this new AI thing being used and abused at least from your point of view?

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<a href="/ru/translator/sailor-pokemoon2" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1399679">Sailor PokeMoon2 </a>
Регистрация: 21.10.2018

Is there any way it could go against their word count too?

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<a href="/ru/translator/citl%C4%81licue" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1109697">citlālicue <div class="moderator_icon" title="Moderator" ></div></a>
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Another thing I want to point out is that users should NOT be able to fill their own requests. This feature was implemented to help with the transcription process, as an AID, not a sole option. Users who have proven to fill transcriptions more frequently than others should be at the top of the list of those who should be able to use this feature. Why are new users allowed to use this?

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<a href="/ru/translator/sailor-pokemoon2" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1399679">Sailor PokeMoon2 </a>
Регистрация: 21.10.2018

I did that by accident and I admit I should not have been able to do that so easily.

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<a href="/ru/translator/citl%C4%81licue" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1109697">citlālicue <div class="moderator_icon" title="Moderator" ></div></a>
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I just noticed that I filled two transcription requests, and the AI emoji is visible. I did not use it, it generated something, but I deleted it and transcribed it myself. How is this possible? If a request has a transcription already generated and users decide not to use it, is it automatically labeled as 'AI generated'?

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<a href="/ru/translator/spacewar" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1424022">space_war </a>
Регистрация: 08.06.2019

Just saw this feature and for Bulgarian it was less than 50% correct. For this song I basically deleted and rewrote the whole thing. https://lyricstranslate.com/en/princess-and-frog-ost-samo-v-nyu-orliyns-...

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<a href="/ru/translator/lt" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1">LT </a>
Регистрация: 27.05.2008
minorthreat ha scritto:

The notifications are honestly getting a little annoying and spammy

Sorry for that!
Now, the transcription notifications will be suppressed if there have been more than three of them in the last 48 hours.

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<a href="/ru/translator/don-juan" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1110108">Don Juan <div class="moderator_icon" title="Moderator" ></div></a>
Регистрация: 05.04.2012

Word count is for translations only, it doesn't take lyrics in consideration.

Quote:

We are pleased to announce the launch of an experimental feature called 'Word Power'. For each user, we have gathered their original translations, grouped them by language, and then calculated the unique words used.

https://lyricstranslate.com/en/forum/updates/word-power-feature

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<a href="/ru/translator/don-juan" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1110108">Don Juan <div class="moderator_icon" title="Moderator" ></div></a>
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BTW, the new tool doesn't really work well with multilingual requests:
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/gianluca-grignani-tout-me-va-lyrics-request
Looks like it translated the Italian parts into French - and the French lines are there as if the whole song was in French.

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<a href="/ru/translator/minorthreat" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1547622">minorthreat <div class="editor_icon" title="Editor/in" ></div></a>
Регистрация: 14.09.2022

Thank you so much! Earlier I was waking up to 20 notifications and I'd be getting a notification every 5 minutes.

I'd also prefer to not get notifications for languages I don't speak. Like I keep getting notifications for my French transcription requests and there's no way for me to verify them so there's no point. But I know you have a lot of work already so no pressure

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<a href="/ru/translator/lt" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1">LT </a>
Регистрация: 27.05.2008
minorthreat ha scritto:

Thank you so much! Earlier I was waking up to 20 notifications and I'd be getting a notification every 5 minutes.

There is a significant backlog of a few thousand transcription requests that the bot will process over the next two to three weeks. Until then, users will receive only one notification per 24 hours, indicating the number of their requests that have been transcribed. Users can view which of their requests have been transcribed by checking their profiles.

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<a href="/ru/translator/lt" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1">LT </a>
Регистрация: 27.05.2008
líadan ha scritto:

I just noticed that I filled two transcription requests, and the AI emoji is visible. I did not use it, it generated something, but I deleted it and transcribed it myself. How is this possible? If a request has a transcription already generated and users decide not to use it, is it automatically labeled as 'AI generated'?

This icon is for moderators/editors only. It will disappear (to be implemented soon) for moderated songs.

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<a href="/ru/translator/osiris71" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1421017">osiris71 </a>
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<a href="/ru/translator/don-juan" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1110108">Don Juan <div class="moderator_icon" title="Moderator" ></div></a>
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Alma Barroca ha scritto:

And, hmmm... Where does 'Sottotitoli e revisione a cura di QTSS' come from here? (It basically says the subtitles were proofread and provided by this QTSS).

LT ha scritto:

Our guess is that this line was in video subtitles the model was trained with, so the model thinks that songs may end in this way.
Other common examples are "Sous-titres réalisés para la communauté d'Amara.org", "Sottotitoli creati dalla comunità Amara.org"
"Subscribe to the channel" etc.

[@osiris71] refer to this for info.

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<a href="/ru/translator/connor-langille" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1399875">Connor Langille </a>
Регистрация: 22.10.2018

I think the notifications whenever the AI does a transcription should be optional and something you can turn on or off.

I understand why it may be annoying to some but I actually liked being told when a transcription was ready

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<a href="/ru/translator/don-juan" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1110108">Don Juan <div class="moderator_icon" title="Moderator" ></div></a>
Регистрация: 05.04.2012

We're giving Admins some suggestions and feedback on the notifications in private, and I'll actually quote myself here just so everyone knows.

Alma Barroca ha scritto:

I do agree that receiving notifications by the tenths regarding AI-transcribed songs was annoying, but at the same time I knew which request I had opened was in the process of being done. So it was easier for me to check the pages individually. I also do prefer the current way we're alerted, but with it I don't know which songs have been the target of this AI's most recent attempt and look at my requests, so in those cases, what do you think of adding a new page where all those requests are shown so their authors can check for themselves?

Speaking as someone who opens a lot of transcription requests ~and lacks the patience to check each of them, I admit~, I think that concentrating those in a place wouldn't do any harm to people (of course, this page would only show for users themselves, not others).

And the notification would then read something like:

Quote:

AI tool attempted to transcribe (number) of your transcription requests yesterday. Check which ones here1.

  • 1. Link to the new page
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<a href="/ru/translator/saturnine" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1518037">saturnine <div class="editor_icon" title="  Editoija" ></div></a>
Регистрация: 14.11.2021

Does the feature still work? When I check out requests from the past week, no matter the language, there's no text suggested.

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<a href="/ru/translator/%D1%8F%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2-%D1%8F%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B2" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1495300">Ярослав Якимов </a>
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Why is AI transcription not created for new queries now? Has this great feature been removed?

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<a href="/ru/translator/lt" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1">LT </a>
Регистрация: 27.05.2008

Our apologies, it seems that the bot is temporarily out of order. We're working to bring him back.

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<a href="/ru/translator/fratelli-ditaglia" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1269413">Fratelli d'ItaGlia </a>
Регистрация: 11.12.2015

There are several things to fix regarding this feature. I just received an automated transcript for this old request - please read the "lyrics" 😄
https://lyricstranslate.com/it/dan-hartman-talking-wall-lyrics-request

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<a href="/ru/translator/lt" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1">LT </a>
Регистрация: 27.05.2008
Fratelli d'ItaGlia ha scritto:

There are several things to fix regarding this feature. I just received an automated transcript for this old request - please read the "lyrics" 😄
https://lyricstranslate.com/it/dan-hartman-talking-wall-lyrics-request

Sometimes, the model may fail to accurately capture the lyrics sung in a song. Its a new feature, perhaps in the future we will be able to detect such failures and will not notify users.

We've found another bug in the bot, hopefully from now it will try to transcribe Greek, Czech, Croatian, Swedish, Malay, Vietnamese, Bosnian, Tamil, Urdu and Hindi. However, for these languages transcriptions will be less accurate than English/Spanish ones.

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<a href="/ru/translator/ameenahanoona" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1509715">AmeenaHanoona </a>
Регистрация: 10.08.2021

I just requested a song transcription in Russian. I got back a message that it had been done for me using AI, but unfortunately the AI “transcription” is completely useless and not worth posting. Is my request still pending for a real Russian speaker to fulfill, or does it now appear closed?

Here’s the link:
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/yuri-morfessi-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%89%D0...

Thanks

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<a href="/ru/translator/don-juan" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1110108">Don Juan <div class="moderator_icon" title="Moderator" ></div></a>
Регистрация: 05.04.2012

Requests are only solved/completed when somebody (which can be yourself) clicks the 'Submit' button. The AI transcription is meant to be a base for users, not necessarily reflecting the real lyrics, that's why we are asking users to always proofread before submitting the lyrics, completing the request.

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<a href="/ru/translator/ameenahanoona" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1509715">AmeenaHanoona </a>
Регистрация: 10.08.2021

Thank you for getting back to me. That makes complete sense. Consider my issue solved.

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<a href="/ru/translator/connor-langille" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1399875">Connor Langille </a>
Регистрация: 22.10.2018

If possible there should be a way to request a new automated transcription

Partially because of stuff like this

https://lyricstranslate.com/ja/akamaru-obsessions-mistress

Where the lyrics are nothing more then music notes

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<a href="/ru/translator/lt" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1">LT </a>
Регистрация: 27.05.2008
Connor Langille ha scritto:

If possible there should be a way to request a new automated transcription
Partially because of stuff like this
https://lyricstranslate.com/ja/akamaru-obsessions-mistress
Where the lyrics are nothing more then music notes

We have introduced a new feature: the 'Clear AI Transcription' button. This button is visible only to the author of the request, Editors, and Moderators. Once clicked, it removes the AI transcription from the request and also tags the request in such a way that it will not be revisited by the bot.

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<a href="/ru/translator/sailor-pokemoon2" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1399679">Sailor PokeMoon2 </a>
Регистрация: 21.10.2018

Could you or someone else maybe provide an example so some of us would know what it looks like?

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<a href="/ru/translator/connor-langille" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1399875">Connor Langille </a>
Регистрация: 22.10.2018

I was kinda wanting it to be revisited. I think if the transcription is blantly wrong or just doesn't exist (as mentioned some of the transcriptions don't have lyrics and are just music notes) you should be able to request the bot make a brand new transcription

Assuming that's possible, I deleted a song and resubmitted a request only to get the same outcome.

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<a href="/ru/translator/lt" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1">LT </a>
Регистрация: 27.05.2008
Connor Langille ha scritto:

I was kinda wanting it to be revisited. I think if the transcription is blantly wrong or just doesn't exist (as mentioned some of the transcriptions don't have lyrics and are just music notes) you should be able to request the bot make a brand new transcription
Assuming that's possible, I deleted a song and resubmitted a request only to get the same outcome.

Regrettably, it's highly probable that future tries will produce similar outcomes, considering it's the same AI model we're using. However, once a new version of the transcription model is released, we'll have the opportunity to revisit and correct all the transcriptions that previously failed and were labeled as such.

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<a href="/ru/translator/connor-langille" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1399875">Connor Langille </a>
Регистрация: 22.10.2018

I noticed when going to make a new transcription that this is a thing now

"This field is optional. Use this field if your video is lengthy and contains multiple songs. To specify the exact starting point of the song you wish to transcribe, enter the corresponding time in seconds here." as well as an ending time

Probably not but just to be sure, Does the AI recognize the start and end times?

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<a href="/ru/translator/lt" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1">LT </a>
Регистрация: 27.05.2008
Connor Langille ha scritto:

I noticed when going to make a new transcription that this is a thing now

"This field is optional. Use this field if your video is lengthy and contains multiple songs. To specify the exact starting point of the song you wish to transcribe, enter the corresponding time in seconds here." as well as an ending time

Probably not but just to be sure, Does the AI recognize the start and end times?

Great observation!
This feature is currently under development. Hopefully soon you'll be able to specify the start and end times in seconds, particularly useful for cases where your song of interest is nestled within a larger video. At present, our transcription bot only works with videos that are less than 20 minutes long. However, with this forthcoming feature, you'll be able to transcribe specific songs from longer videos, such as those of complete albums.

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<a href="/ru/translator/julietarab" class="userpopupinfo" rel="user1050123">julietarab </a>
Регистрация: 15.10.2009

I love this feature. I have previously added several songs with YouTube videos where the whole album was uploaded, and I had to indicate the starting time in the comment box. I will be happy to go back and edit all those songs to include this new feature.

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