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Please delete this page and the songs published here, for the following reason: everything is created with artificial intelligence (AI)
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/retro-riviera-studio-lyrics
Songs created with AI
Following this thread:
On this topic, the person this page is dedicated to uses AI for their music too, unsure about the writing...
https://lyricstranslate.com/fr/toonfanatic-lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/@ToonFanatic
https://credits.muso.ai/profile/7bbdf96d-2b6d-4c60-b2e5-07e5152bece1
Any chance a moderator can take me into consideration? Tell me if AI-created content is allowed on LT or not, that's all. Because I know it's not. But maybe I'm wrong
As a matter of fact I read your thread as soon as you opened it - the fact we didn't participate here is simply because no decision has been made regarding those particular lyrics. Each AI-made song which has been reported to us is different from the other, so each case needs to be thoroughly examined.
Truth is, even the guideline most Mods have agreed with doesn't really include a huge grey zone of content.
btw what about the situation, when the lyrics are made by real person but sang using AI voice generator?
as we discussed before, when the song is available on Spotify or YT Music, it is allowed?
under new copyright rules, if a person input enough lyrics or promps, the song can be copyrighted to the human that imput the information, we should not be afraid of new technology that can be great tools to do our jobs faster to map out songs, We need to know the level of human intervention in the creation of this song.
as we discussed before, when the song is available on Spotify or YT Music, it is allowed?
This is the issue with the page in question - the songs don't seem to have been published elsewhere, but they are the result of... someone's creative input... So I honestly don't know how to act here.
It could be nice if there was maybe a way to tag AI music, as to differentiate it from other songs and make it clear that it’s AI, plus for filtering purposes. (IMO, this shouldn’t apply to AI-generated translations, which would be best if not allowed).
Not sure if it would be the best solution! But I’ve seen many websites take this approach to AI content, so I thought I would mention it.
Yes, such was already proposed in the past, but in the end even like that it'd be hard to categorize those, because some songs may have been made with IA but there's no confirmation about it. Songs are added here by the hundreds each day, we probably will never have ways to determine which song is or not made with IA - needing or not that tag.
IA translations = no, no, they'll be removed.
this is a really good idea to indicate it:
we have a letter 'E' for → Explicit
we can have the letters 'AI' for → Artificial Intelligence
& I thought about the letters 'ESC' for → song that made it on the eurovision-stage
(or it can be the eurovision heart-logo to indicate that a songtext is eurovision music/lyric)
(maybe we can indicate ALSO all the songs at the national finals with this heart-icon or 'esc' initial)
these are just ideas ofcourse, as i am a person that has 'eurovision' in veins
yes it seems to be a good idea, as I personally posted some AI content it would be clear and cease all discussions in this topic
exactly. My point of view is that if something was made with creativity, it should be allowed, no matter if it is explicit or made with support of AI
this is a great idea, i would like to see an AI indicator that shows when songs are made with AI
i understand such things are new tools but they aren't the same as human music and i would like to see their status clearly indicated
Humans created AI, so everything created by AI is created by humans. AI is a tool. The same way you don't include hammer or saw when saying that this building was build by a human I don't think that mentioning of an AI can make any difference IMHO.
#15 @Motek:
We are dealing with art here.
Works created by AI have no soul. They don't make sense and send no message.
AI makes artists breadless when they have to compete with piles of rubbish.
AI even can fake artist's voices.
We have to protect culture from being villainized and raped.
All art created, by ai or by human, have no soul.
"AI makes artists breadless when they have to compete with piles of rubbish."
If art created by them can't compete with piles of rubbish then it's a bad art.
"AI even can fake artist's voices."
Some artist can't sing and use autotune and playback so... ?!
"We have to protect culture from being villainized and raped."
What culture?! You really doesn't know history? You repeat the same voices when some artists in the past started making music using synthesizers and electric guitars.
Synthesizers and electric guitars were simply new or further developments of existing musical instruments.
They don't play or function on their own; rather, they are tools of human creativity.
AI is also a product of human creativity, but AI products are nothing more than imitations of previously created works. Elements are arbitrarily combined without any regard for meaning or taste. This has nothing to do with art and should not be supported or promoted.
This was another suggestion from the staff too, either a new label or a tag, which would work as the Explicit one. But honestly, we didn't reach any common agreement. We have the robot icon when fulfilling a transcription request where AI was used, maybe adding a similar thing for AI-generated songs (where we're 100% sure of that) would suffice?
But then again, the main issue here is the songs being or not official. We had issues in the past with mash-ups between songs by different artists, so let's say, if AI generates a mash-up, and someone adds it to YouTube only, should we allow it here?
I am new here, if this has been covered in an earlier post forgive me for asking the obvious, but how do you tell that something was AI-generated versus "these are just derivative lyrics made by a human"? The world is already full of "Bad Art" that AI had nothing to do with yet I don't hear the same pearl-clutching outrage when it comes to "soulless" non-AI mediocrity.
We talk in this post as if "Art" was this universally agreed upon concept, when in fact it's not. Postmodernism embraces the artificial construction of reality, of which computer-generated lyrics certainly fall into that category ... which brings me back to the question at hand: how can you tell if lyrics were AI-generated versus written by a lazy sod who just can't be bothered?
At the end of the day isn't Art simply what we declare it to be and if so why are we acting as self-appointed Gate Keepers to something that is constantly changing depending on tastes and times?
Synthesizers and electric guitars were simply new or further developments of existing musical instruments.
They don't play or function on their own; rather, they are tools of human creativity.
AI is also a product of human creativity, but AI products are nothing more than imitations of previously created works. Elements are arbitrarily combined without any regard for meaning or taste. This has nothing to do with art and should not be supported or promoted.
You fight for a world that is long gone. Music industry used AI tools way before common people gained access to it.
It's not that difficult.
The products generated entirely by AI usually do not even hide their origin.
If you do a little research, you can easily find out.
If it is hidden, you can tell because the specified interpreter does not exist as a person, or that no humane interpreter is specified at all.
There is no real photo of a living person, he does not appear in public, gives concerts, interviews, etc.
Thank you for the information! Since I mainly am interested in 200-year old folk music from an era before artist photos and music videos, etc. I do admit that finding information about songs written by Anonymous (especially in languages that I am not fluent in) can be challenging, but that's the great thing about being curious ... there's always something new to learn.
Still, none of that addresses the issue of what to do with AI-generated lyrics here on LT once one identifies that's what they are. Speaking only for myself, my job as a translator isn't to vet a song but simply to translate. If it is interesting enough for me to bring the words from one language into another, (if it has "duende," as Federico Garcia Lorca would say) then that's all that matters. But I would have no problem with using an AI-icon of some sort to identify computer-generated lyrics if that's what the mods decide is the best approach.
It's not that difficult.
The products generated entirely by AI usually do not even hide their origin.
If you do a little research, you can easily find out.
If it is hidden, you can tell because the specified interpreter does not exist as a person, or that no humane interpreter is specified at all.
There is no real photo of a living person, he does not appear in public, gives concerts, interviews, etc.
Music industry is filled with saints that cannot lie then and if interpreter died or knowledge about it was lost then it is for sure entirely generated by AI?!
